David Hayde

Jan 152014
 

The tax records of 1666/7 recorded a James Head from Kilballyherberry, Ballysheehan.  He was probably one of the 10 Heade (and variant) families recorded in the area at the time.

By the time of the religious census in 1766, the two families in this area were Philip and Maria Kearney and John and Maria Monaghan. These two couples both had large families however I can only find the descendants of Philip and Maria in the Killenaule parish records. They were recorded as Head in the census records and Head and Heade in the parish records.

By the time of the tithe taxes in the 1820s, the descendants in the area were Thomas Hayde and Cath Kivane and Patrick Hayde and Cath Kelly both farming at Killhill, Kilballyherberry.  They were both grandchildren of Philip and Maria.

The parish records also show Patrick Hayde and Judith Bradley in Killhill in the 1830s.

Thomas married Cath Kivane circa 1803 and Patrick married Margaret Kirwan in 1811 and then Cath Kelly in 1813. They both had families at Killhill between 1810 and 1840.

In 1827, Thomas and Patrick  were farming on land owned by The Estate of Oliver Latham Esq. Patrick had a plot of 3a 1r 0p and Thomas’s plot was 3a 3r 0p. They both defaulted on these tithes in the 1830s and were not on this land in the 1850s.

The eldest son of Thomas and Cath’s was Patrick Hayde (b 1803). He married Margaret Farrell in Carlow in circa 1840 and immigrated to London in the late 1840s during the potato famine.  One of their sons (the only child to live long enough to have a family) joined the British army.  He went to India with the army where he married and had a large family.  Descendants live in England, India, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.  This is Tree # 1.

Other sons moved to Ballinure and descendents are in the Ballinure/Cashel area. These families, and other descendants from the Killhill families are Tree # 10.

Records in London in 1870 (relating to Patrick b 1803) indicate that Thomas and Cath had died by then.  Given that Patrick could not read or write and had left Ireland by the late 1840s, I suspect they may have died by the time Patrick and Margaret left Ireland. By the 1840s they would have been in their 60s, which is much longer than life expectancy at the time

The early members of these two families can be summarised as:

Philip and Maria Kearney

  • John Heade b 1745. Mar Cath Kennedy
    • Catherine Head b 1771
    • Anastasia Heade b 1786
  • Michael Heade b 1747. Mar Cath Nagle
    • Philip Head b 1786, d 1788
    • Thomas Head b 1788. Mar Cath Kivane
      • Patrick Hayde b 1803. Mar Margaret Farrell – Tree # 1
        • Edward Hayde b 1848
        • Margaret Hayde b 1849
        • Patrick Hayde b 1853
        • John Hayd b 1855
      • Mary Heade b 1811
      • Cath Hayde b 1813
      • Edmond Head b 1815. Mar Mary Barry then Mary Bulfin – Tree # 10
        • Thomas Hade b 1846
        • James Hade b 1849
        • Michael Hayde b 1853
        • Joanna Hayde b 1854
        • Martin Hayde b 1855
        • Mary Hayde b 1869
        • Margaret Hayde b 1871
      • Nelly/Ellen Head b 1818
      • Peg (Margaret) Head b 1821
      • Tom Heade b 1824
      • James Hayde b 1826
      • Michael Heade b 1826
  • Unreadable b 1749
  • Honoria Heade b 1752
  • Maria Heade b 1753
  • Catherine Heade b 1756
  • James Head b 1759. Mar Joanne Duggan
    • James Head b 1790
    • Patrick Head b 1796. Mar Margaret Kirwan then Cath Kelly
      • Margaret Heade b 1814.
      • Mary Head b 1815
      • Pat Hayde b 1819. Emigrated to America in circa 1847.  Lived Albany, NY State.
      • Margaret Hayde b 1824
      • John Heade b 1826. Emigrated to America circa 1850. Lived Albany, NY State.
      • Ellen Hayde b 1829
      • James Hayde b 1831. Emigrated to America circa 1853. Lived Albany, NY State.
      • Thomas Hayd b 1834
    • Bridget Head b 1799
  • Allina Head b 1762
  • Eliza Heade b 1766

Further information is provided on the families that settled in Albany in the Albany posts page.

John and Maria Monaghan

  • Ellen Heade b 1749
  • Margaret Heade b 1751
  • Richard Heade b 1752
  • Catherine Heade b 1753
  • Thomas Heade b 1756
  • Margaret Head b 1759

Descendants of the above are difficult to track.

There are also other Hayde/Heade and Hade families in the early parish records as can be seen from the detailed research notes made from the parish records, the civil records, valuation records, directories, graveyards and the 1901 and 1911 census for this area in Ballinure and Killenaule Families

How the other families in the area are all connected is not obvious from the paper records.  DNA testing however has shown that the families from this area have similar DNA and therefore share a common ancestor, which may well be the James Head who was in Kilballyherberry in 1666/7.

A map of the area is as follows:

Jan 262015
 

The tax records of 1666/7 showed Edward Heade and James Heade from the Ballingarry area. Edward was at Lisnamrock and James at Farranrory. They were probably one of the 10 Heade (and variants) families in the 1659 census.

By the time of the tithe taxes of the 1820s, the descendants in the area were:

  • Patrick Heade at Boula (Boulinthea).  He was baptized in 1806 when parish records were started.  He appears to have been an adult at the time and was sponsored by John Langley, a large landowner in the area.
  • Michael Head at Knockadabe
  • James Head at Lickfinn (note that there were two entries. They could be the same person at both locations or two different families).

Boula

Patrick married Catherine Hogan. The parish records show they had the following children:

  • Elena Heade b 1806
  • Michael Heade b 1808
  • John Heade b 1810.  Mar Mary Croake
  • Nicholas Heade b 1812
  • Patrick Heade b 1815
  • Thomas Heade b 1817. Mar Mary Hennessy

At the time of the 1850 valuations, the two families living at Boula were John and Lawrence Hayde. John is probably the son b 1810 while Lawrence is probably another son that was not recorded in the parish records.

The main branches to the Boula tree appear to be:

1)  The Lawrence who moved to Cardiff and settled there.

Lawrence (b 1812) and Ellen Doran arrived in Cardiff around 1836.  Descendants are in Cardiff. Their Irish origins are unknown but the most logical assumption is that they came from this area as Doran families were neighbours of the Hayde families in Boula. The descendants of Lawrence and Ellen are described further in the Welsh Family Posts.

2)  Patrick Heade from Boulea who was in the Tithe records in 1834. His sons were:

  • John Hayde, who was farming 46 acres in 1850 in Boulea and by 1890 was farming 100 acres. He married Mary Croake and their children were:
    • Patrick Hayde b 1853. Mar Hannah Finane
      • John Hayde b 1892
      • Denis Hayde b 1895
      • Mary Hayde b 1898
    • James Hayde b 1853
    • William Hayd b 1854
    • Johanna Hayd b 1856
    • JohnHayd b 1858
    • Mary Hayde b 1859
    • Michael Head b 1861
    • Hannah Hayde b 1862
  • Laurence Hayde, who was also in Boulea in the 1850s. He married Mary Butler and they had 8 girls.
  • Thomas Hayde, who married Mary Hennessy and had moved to Clonmel by the 1850s. They had:
    • John Hayde b 1848
    • James Hayde b 1849
    • Thomas Hayde b 1852
    • Catherine Hayde b 1854
    • James Hayde b 1856
    • Mary Hayde b 1859

I have found no living male descendants of Patrick.

3)  William, who was a teacher at Lisnamrock in 1824. He married Catherine Walsh and they had:

  • Thomas Hayes b 1816
  • Henry Heade b 1818
  • William Hade b 1823
  • Ellen Hade b 1824
  • Cath Heade b 1828
  • Richard Heade

Henry and Ellen were in New York in the 1850s.  Richard, was transported to Australia in 1843.  I have found no descendants of any of these people.

Knockadabe and Lickfinn

Michael mar Mary Cahill in 1832 and they had:

  • James Heade b 1832
  • John Heade b 1834
  • Elizabeth Heade b 1837
  • Mary Heade b 1840
  • Margaret Heade b 1843.

John and Margaret were possibly in Boston in 1864.

James and Elizabeth Wilson who were in Lickfinn in 1812 and James and Biddy Maher who had a family in the 1820s.

James and Judith Conway from Lickfinn had:

  • Elizabeth Heade b 1827
  • John Hede b 1828
  • Margaret Head b 1830
  • Mary Heade b 1832
  • James Heade b 1834
  • Edmund Heade b 1837
  • Bridget Heade b 1841
  • Ellen Heade b 1843

This family emigrated to America and they are covered in more detail in the Chicago Family Posts and are known as Tree # 14.

In the parish records for Gortnahoe and Ballingarry there were also a number of other Hayde/Heade families in the early 1800s.  The linkages are not entirely clear as the records only started in the early 1800s.

Boulea is:

Lisnamrock is:

 

Extracts from the Ballingarry parish records, the civil records, tombstones, valuation records, census returns and other records are at Ballingarry Families

The family tree can be seen at the following ancestry web site https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/52746022/family

 

 

 

 

Jan 042015
 

 

In 1849, John Hayde joined the Royal Irish Constabulary.  In the enlistment papers he was recorded as being born in 1830 in Tipperary South, he was a carpenter by trade and was 5 foot 8 1/8th inches tall.

He served for 30 years and was pensioned in 1879.

He raised his family in Naas, Kildare and descendants ran various shops in Naas in the late 1800s and 1900s.

Descendants are in Dublin, England and various other parts of Ireland.

I have not found his birth in any Tipperary South parish records so I have not been able to link John to any other families. The nearest possibility is a John Hayde b 1826 in Fethard parish.

In addition, the DNA of a descendant does not match that of any other families so I cannot ascertain linkages to any other families. More DNA testing may provide some clues.

John and his early descendants are shown in the tree below:

Tree #8

Aug 242017
 

The tax records of 1666/7 showed a James Hyad/Head at Rathdangin in the parish of St Patricksrock, Fethard and a James Hyad/Haide at Derryluskan in the parish of Rathcoole.

Rathdangin and St Patricksrock are suburbs of Fethard.

The family at Derryluskan was probably the ancestors of the family who were in Coolmoyne in the 1880s and are discussed further in the Cashel Posts.

These locations are in the barony of Middlethird which in the 1659 census only showed 8 Headen and 5 O’Hea families.  They were either counted as part of the O’Hea numbers or ignored due to their low usage.

By 1766, an Edm Head was in the village of Killusty in the parish of Kiltinan, Fethard. He is probably a descendant of one of the families above.

Killusty is South West of Fethard as shown below:

In the early 1800s, when the Catholic parish records began, the following families were in the Drangan area:

  • Michael, who was at Cappadrummin (also spelt Cappadroma) in 1828
  • Edmond, who was at Cloran in 1830
  • William, who was at Knockelly in 1833

Also at Cloran at the same time as Edmond was James. He didn’t feature in the Tithe records so must have been with Edmond on the 19 acres that Edmond farmed. They were probably brothers.

A John Head/Hayde was in Bannixtown in the 1830s and 1840s.  This village is nor far from Cloran and he may be another brother of Edmond and James. I have not found any trace of descendants of John.

Cloran and Cappadrummin are all close to Killusty in the Fethard parish as can be seen from the map below while Knockelly is a bit further North.

1. Michael and Mary Gorman. They married 1813 in Drangan parish and both were recorded as from Killusty. Michael was actually called Edmd in the marriage records although all the baptisms referred to him as Michael. He is probably a descendant of the Edm who was in Killusty in 1766. They had the following children:

  • James Head b 1816. Mar Mary Doran 1843 as Hayde from Cloran.
    • James Hayd b 1843, Drangan.
    • Bridget Head b 1847, Drangan. Mar Vermont 1871
    • Robert Hayde b 1845, Corbally. Mar Mary Mahoney. Corbally is a village a mile North East of Drangan. In the 1880s they were living in Fethard.
      • Mary Hayde b 1866. Mar 1892
      • James Hayde b 1869. He joined the Militia in 1887 at Clonmel. He later served in the Royal Irish Rifles. Mar Mary Mitchell 1899. They emigrated to New York on the Oceanic in March 1900. He was a shoemaker/bootmaker.
        • James Hayde b 1902
        • Ann Hayde b 1904
        • Mary Hayde b 1906
        • Robert Hayde b 1909
      • Alice Hayd b 1870. Mar 1898
      • Catherine Hayde b 1872. Mar 1918
      • John Hayde b 1874. He joined the army Militia in 1891 at Clonmel. Mar Johanna Whelan, Clonmel 1907 and was still there in 1911.
        • Margaret Mary Hayde b 1909
      • Bridget Hayde b 1876
      • Unknown female b 1880. Mar 1896
      • Ellen Hayde b 1882
  • Anne Head b 1817
  • Timothy Head 1820
  • Ellen Head b 1823
  • Mary Heade b 1826
  • Michael Hayde b 1829
  • Bridget Heade b 1832
  • Cath Hayde b 1835
  • Judy Hade b 1836

James, Anne, Timothy and Ellen were baptised in the Drangan parish while the later children were baptised in the Fethard parish records. In the 1830s the parish records described them as being from Cappadrummin and is where Michael Heade was recorded in the Tithe records as farming 2 acres in 1828.

2. Edmond and Margaret English. They had:

  • Mary Head b 1814
  • Judith Head b 1816
  • Bridget Headin b 1819
  • Thomas Head b 1822
  • John Head b 1824
  • Margaret Head b 1825
  • Ellen Hayde b 1828, Cloran

Edmond was in the Tithe records of 1830 as Headd. He was farming 19 acres at # 25 and the English family were at # 33.

Edmond died 1834 and left his estate to Margaret. Mary (nee Gorman) was the householder on this property in the 1840s but she had gone by 1849 and there is no family presence here in the 1850s.

3. James and Mary Fitzgerald. They had:

  • Mary Head b 1815
  • Richard Head b 1818. Mar Mary Shea 1842
    • James Head b 1842, Kilnagranagh
    • Patrick Head, b 1844, Cloran. Mar Bridget Lee, Bennington, Vermont, USA, 1872. Patrick arrived in 1871 according to his Naturalisation records although there is no surviving immigration record, and he was Naturalised in 1873. There is no obvious 1880 census record for them. The 1900 American census showed Bridget as having 6 children with 3 living at that time.
      • Mary Hayde b 1873 Brooklyn
      • Edward Hayde b 1876 Albany
      • Margaret Hayde b 1878
    • Richard Head b 1846, Kilna. Mar Margaret Kenny. Richard died in 1927 and left his estate to his daughter Mary.
      • Mary Hade b 1887. Mary died in 1945 and left the estate to a non family member.
      • William Hade b 1889. He died in 1942 and he left his estate to a non family member.
    • Mary Head b 1849, Kilna
    • Margaret Head b 1852, Cappaghmore
    • Thomas Hayde b 1854, Cappa. Died of a disease of the lungs in Cashel Workhouse in 1878.
    • John Head b 1857, Cappa. John probably lived on a small plot at Kilnagranagh (12B) until he died in 1939.  There was no record of a marriage or children in the civil records.
    • Mary Hayde b 1860, Cappa
  • Anne Head b 1821
  • Bridget Head b 1824. Mar William Keevan 1846
  • Thomas Hayde b 1829
  • Patrick Hayde b 1832, Cloran. Mar Johanna Lyons.  This is tree # 11. Descendants are discussed more in the Connecticut Posts and the tree can be seen at https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/tree/51523823/family

James was not in the Tithe records and was probably with Edmond in Cloran.

4. William and Alice Delaney.  They had:

  • Margaret Head b 1817
  • Bridget Head b 1818
  • Edmond Head b 1824

William was in the Tithe records of Knockelly as Hayde. They must have had more children as a Thomas Hayde was on this land in 1846 until 1882.

In the 1860s Thomas was before the courts on a number of petty crimes and a Judith Hayde was a witness on one occasion.

Jan 242016
 

A few Hayde families were in the area north west of Ballinure and Ballingarry by 1800. These were:

Kilduff to Middleton, Lancashire, England

In the 1830s, Patrick and Michael were in Kilduff, a town in the foothills of the Kilduff mountains north west of Templemore.

I have not found any descendants of Michael.

Patrick seems to have died some time between 1847 (when his last child was born) and 1861 when Mary (his wife) and the surviving children were in Tonge, Middleton, Lancashire, England.

Patrick Hayde, a son of Patrick, went to Ayr in Scotland looking for work and met a Lavina Kelly.  They married in Oldham in 1866 and had 3 sons and 3 daughters. In 1871 they were living in Middleton and descendants still live in Middleton.

A brother, John  b 1833, also had a family in the area but adopted the Hade variant in the late 1800s.

Another brother, Peter b 1842, emigrated to America in 1868.  He settled in Detroit, Michigan and his children were variously named Hade and Hayde.

Mardyke to Oldham, Lancashire, England

Patrick and Ellen (Doran/Dearan/Gorman) arrived in Oldham between 1829 and 1831 with 3 children.  They had a further 3 children in Oldham.  I found the baptism of the oldest child in the parish of Killenuale and Moyglass in 1836 where their residence was stated as Mardyke (I think they baptised an older child on a trip back to Ireland from Oldham).

There are many other Hayde/Heade families in this area being just north west of Ballinure and Ballingarry. Mardyke is a township just south of Templemore, which is not far from Kilduff.

One of their children John Hayde, was ordained as a priest in Italy in 1867.  He was in Cork in 1861 and again from 1877 to 1887.  From 1873 to 1877 and then from 1887 to 1914 (when he died) he was at parishes in Cardiff.

Official church records describe how he was very popular with parishioners.

Mardyke to Great Bolton, England

Also in Mardyke in the 1830s were James and Bridget Meagher.  Their children, and grand children,  were:

  • Michael Heade b 1826 Ballingarry parish
    • James was probably farming in Lickfinn in the 1830s as was Michael in the 1850s
  • Tom Heade b 1828 Gortnahoe parish
  • John Hayde b 1833 Mardyke, Killenaule parish
    • John married Mary Murphy in Rotheran, Yorkshire in the 1866.  They had 6 children in Rotheran and Bolton, Lancashire.
  • James Hayde b 1835 Mardyke, Killenaule parish

Wigan, England

Edward Hade (b 1811), son of John a gardener, arrived in Wigan before 1840.  He married Mary Morgan and had a son Peter in 1840.  By 1851 both Mary and Peter had died and he remarried, as Edward Hayde, a Margaret Conroy.  I have not found his Irish origins but I am treating him as connected to Tree #7 in the absence of any other option.

In 1851 a John Gorman was staying with them.  This provides a link (tenuous) to Ellen Gorman above.

Littleton to Warwickshire and Channel Islands

I have found the records of 3 children of Patrick and Judith Ryan from Thurles parish.  These are:

  • James Heade b 1808
  • John Hade b 1811.
    • John married Mary Ann Campbell in Leamington, Warwickshire in 1837.  They had several children in Warwickshire and adopted the Hade variant.
  • Patrick Heade/Hade b 1821.
    • Patrick married Mary Roche in 1843 when he was living at Boolahaha, a village 5 miles to the north east of Thurles.  They had 2 children baptised in the Thurles parish and by 1851 they were on Alderney, in the Channel Islands.  One daughter, Mary Hade was in Warwickshire in 1881.

The baptism of James noted their address as New Street, which appears to be in the village of Littleton.  This town is 5 miles south east of Thurles on the road to Ballinure and Killenaule.

Patrick, the elder, was recorded as a clerk.  It is interesting to speculate what clerical work he was doing at the time and indeed how he managed to obtain the skills.

A Thomas Hayde from Littleton (b circa 1818 – 1823), joined the Dublin Met Police in 1850 (aged 27) and could also have been another son. He died a bachelor in 1864 (aged 46).

A Michael Hayde b 1829 joined the RIC and then the army in Dublin in 1850.  His army records stated he was born Moycarky parish, near Thurles. He served in the Crimean War in 1855 and retired to Dublin after 21 year service. In the 1901 census he was in Clonmel with his sister Catherine Ryan (a widow) and Catherine and Mary Roach (niece and grand niece).  Michael is probably related.

There is also a James Hayde who joined the RIC in 1849.  He was recorded as being born in Tipperary North in 1826.  He resigned in 1853 and emigrated to America. He traveled on Compromise from Liverpool which arrived in New York on 7 Sept 1853. I have however not found him in any American census or other records.

The detailed research notes can be seen at Tipperary North Families

Jan 042015
 

There was no sign of Hayde (or anything similar) in this area in the 1659 census or the 1666/7 Hearth Money Records.

The earliest relevant entry in the catholic parish records relate to an Edmond Head (?), his wife Judith and a son Phillip.  Phillip married Catherine Magher in 1778 and he was referred to a being from Skinbutler, Aherney.  They had a least one child in Lisdowney parish.

The detailed records from this area are at Urlingford, Kilkenny Families

Maps of the various places referred to follow:

 

 

Jan 262015
 

The name Kilkenny is an anglicisation of a Gaelic name that translates as the Church of St Canice. It was the site of Catholic worship established by St Canice in the sixth century.  It is in the northern part of Kilkenny city known as Irishtown.

The records of early wills showed that a Michael Heade from Irishtown died in 1739 and left his estate to Mary Heade, a widow (presumably his wife).

Irishtown was quite separate from the rest of Kilkenny in the 16th century.  It had its own walls, its own Corporation and its own laws.  It was the oldest part of the city and it is the area to the north of the river running through the centre of the city.  To the south was St Mary’s and to the east was St John’s parish.

St Canice

The Catholic parish records for St Canice started in 1768.  I have searched these and have found the records of a James and Mary Whelan in the 1850s that also featured in the Griffiths survey of 1849 (as Hade). They were living at Butts Cross, an old part of the parish where traces of other ancestors living in Butts went back to 1816.  Descendants from this family, using the Heade variant, emigrated to America in 1870. I have lost track of them after 1920 and have not found a living descendant.

Butts Cross is shown on the map below:

 

St Mary’s

The parish records for St Mary’s started in 1754 and I have found two families in these records in the late 1700s.  These were:

1) Henry Hayde, his wife Mary Mauris and children with births recorded as Hayde. One of the children, Richard, joined the army in 1790 and later fought at Waterloo.

2) Patrick Heade who married Catherine Carroll in 1777.  However I have found no trace of children.

St John’s

St John’s records started in 1809 and these showed a number of Hayde/Haid/Haide births and marriages in the mid 1800s.  I have traced descendants to 1911 Kilkenny City census records where they were using Haide and Hade surnames.

I believe these families originated in the St Canice parish and are related.

The detailed notes on the research in this area can be seen at Kilkenny City Families

May 192016
 

John and James Hayde were farming at Moanmore in 1827. This is an area that has no obvious connections to areas where Haydes were more prevalent at the time.

It can only be assumed that they were brothers and perhaps their father married someone from this area which caused him to move away from another area and settle here.

The location can be seen below:

 

John and James both had children in the 1820s and 1830s and James was still in the area when he died in 1872.  There are no births in this area after the 1840s and after James died in 1872 there is no trace of any other family members in the parish, civil or census records.

Church, civil and census records are at Dunnamaggan, Kilkenny Families

I have also not been able to trace any living descendants.

Jan 222015
 

Descendants from this area can be traced back to one of:

  • Patrick Hayde/Hade, who in 1770 farmed 5 acres at Ballylennon, that he had leased from Chris Walker,
  • John Hayde, who in 1830 farmed 8 acres in Ballyvergal, or
  • Michael Hayde, who had a small landholding at Rutland (Urglin) in 1830, or
  • Patrick Hade, who had a small landholding at Straboe in 1833,

Ballylennon, Ballyvergal and Urglin are within a mile of each other while Straboe is 5 miles away.

The Ballylennon and Ballyvergal families signed Oaths of Allegience to the Crown authorities in 1798, probably to avoid being evicted.  They were also active in the local militia at the time.

The Catholic parish records started in 1787 (Carlow) and 1806 (Tinryland).  These are the earliest records.  There is no sign of them in the area in the 1600s.

I know from DNA tests on descendants that the DNA of this family is very similar to the families that originated in Ballinure (Trees 1, 9, 10 etc) therefore the Carlow families seemingly originated in Tipperary and moved north.  There are many theories as to why but none yet proven.

The detailed research on the area can be viewed at Carlow Families

As mentioned in the research notes above, there is a place in Carlow called Ballyhade.  It is just north of the town of Palatine which is close by Ballylennon and Ballyvergal. In a 1790 map it was shown as Ballyheath.  I have asked people who have lived in Palatine if they know of the origins of the name and have also inquired at the Carlow library.  I have not found any information on the derivation of this name so do not know if there is any connection between this place and our name.

Descendants have been traced to America as well as many others who have stayed in the area.  Those that I have traced have all adopted the Hade surname.

The tree of the earlier Carlow ancestors is: