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These tests are much more analytical than those of Ancestry.com. They produce tables of results of Short Tandem Repeats (STRs). The Hayde test results look like:

Tree # Paternal Ancestor Name Haplo group DYS393 DYS390 DYS19 DYS391 DYS385 DYS426 DYS388 DYS439 DYS389i DYS392 DYS389ii DYS458 DYS459 DYS455 DYS454 DYS447 DYS437 DYS448
  Viking Origin                                      
1 Thomas Hayde, born circa 1784, Dually, Co Tipperary I-M 223 15 23 15 10 15-15 11 13 11 13 12 32 15 8- 10 11 11 24 14 20
10 Thomas Hayde, born circa 1784, Dually, Co Tipperary I-M 223 15 23 15 10 15-15 11 13 11 13 12 32 15 8 -10 11 11 25 14 20
10 Edmond Hayde, born 1812, Ballinure, Co Tipperary 1-M 223 15 23 15 10 15-15 11 13 11 13 12 32 15 8- 10 11 11 25 14 20
15 Patrick Hade born 1775, Co Carlow, Ireland I-M 223 15 23 15 10 15-15 11 13 11 13 12 32 15 8- 10 11 11 25 14 20
9 Edward Hayde born abt 1830, Ballinure, Co Tipperary I-M 223 15 23 15 10 15-15 11 13 11 13 12 31 15 8- 10 11 11 25 14 20
6 Patrick Hayde b 1824, Fethard, Tipperary I-M 223 15 23 15 10 15-15 11 13 11 13 12 31 15 8- 10 11 11 25 14 20
3 Lawrence Heade, born Co Kildare/ Wicklow circa 1740 I-M 223 15 23 15 10 15-15 11 13 11 13 12 31 15 8- 10 11 11 25 14 20
18 James Hayde born abt 1800 Dublin, Ireland I-M 223 15 23 15 10 15-16 11 13 11 13 12 31 15 8- 10 11 11 25 14 20
18 Nicholas Heade, b 1788, Duleek, Ireland I-M 223 15 23 15 10 15-16 11 13 11 13 12 31 15 8- 10 11 11 25 14 20
  Norman Origin
8 John Hayde, b c 1800, Fethard, Co Tipperary R-L 48 13 23 14 13 11-14 12 12 12 14 13 30 16 9- 10 11 11 25 15 19
8 John Hayde, b c 1800, Fethard, Co Tipperary RM 269 13 24 15 11 11-14 12 12 12 14 13 30 18 10- 10 11 11 25 16 19
16 Christopher Hade, b 1790, Dublin RM 269 13 24 15 11 11-14 12 12 11 13 13 29 19 9- 10 11 11 24 15 19
4 Edmond Heade, born 1732, Co Kilkenny, Ireland R-U 106 13 23 14 13 11-14 12 12 12 14 13 30 17 9- 10 11 11 25 15 19
6 Patrick Hayde, b 1824 Fethard, Tipperary R-P 312 13 24 14 11 11-14 12 12 12 14 13 31 19 9- 10 11 11 24 14 19
  German Origin
13 Hans Haid b 1625, Nuertingen, Germany R-M 198 14 25 16 10 11-14 12 12 11 14 11 30 16 9-10 11 11 23 14 20
   = Faster mutating markers

This data is explained more at www.familytreeDNA.com.

I have set up a Hayde research project using these results as part of the study. Click here to be directed to this site.

This shows that:

  • The DNAs reflect three broad sets of data,
  • One set of data relates to the German connection as outlined on the German Families page,
  • The other two sets have Irish origins.

The two Irish DNA sets can all be traced back to County Tipperary. An area around Killenaule. As the sets come from the same location, I assume a NPE (non-paternal event) occurred at some stage that introduced the other DNA.

I assume from historical events that the Viking DNA came first and was followed by the Norman DNA.

DNA Matching

Haplogroup R-M198

The German connection relates to haplogroup R-M198 (aka R1a). R1a shows a strong correlation with Indo-European languages of Southern and Western Asia, Central and Eastern Europe and to some extent Scandinavia being most prevalent in Eastern Europe, West Asia, and South Asia.

The haplo tree is:

The haplo timeline is:

Haplogroup R-M343

One of the Irish sets is from Haplogroup R-M343 (aka R1b). This is a very common Haplogroup in Central Europe, Spain, France, Portugal and the British Isles. Sub-groups include R-L48, R-U106 and R-P312, the three groups featured in the Hayde/Hade results.

Note in the Haplo R-M198 section above, R-M343 is a close relative of R-M198.

This set seems to have Norman origins and I have labelled this grouping as of ‘Norman Origin’ on the web site. This is very conceptual at present and the haplogroups are going through continuous further testing. What is interesting is that the Haydes in this group have very similar DNAs to families that have origins in Lancashire. Lancashire is where several of the Protestant Irish landowners originated.

The haplo tree is:

Similar to the Haplogroup R-M343 are the results from R-M269. This is a sub-glade of R-M343 as can be seen above.

The haplo tree for R-M269 and its sub-glades of R-U106 and R-P312 is shown below:

Haplogroup I-M223

The other Irish set is from Haplogroup I-M223 (aka I2a1b1). This Haplogroup has Scandanavian origins. I have labelled this group as of ‘Viking Origin’ in this data. I-M223 is a sub-glade of I-M253 and I-P215.

(explain it means)

A possible DNA Tree for I-M223 families is: