Nov 112017

The name Kilkenny is an anglicisation of a Gaelic name that translates as the Church of St Canice. It was the site of Catholic worship established by St Canice in the sixth century.  It is in the northern part of Kilkenny city known as Irishtown.

The records of early wills showed that a Michael Heade from Irishtown died in 1739 and left his estate to Mary Heade, a widow (presumably his wife).

Irishtown was quite separate from the rest of Kilkenny in the 16th century.  It had its own walls, its own Corporation and its own laws.  It was the oldest part of the city and it is the area to the north of the river running through the centre of the city.  To the south was St Mary’s and to the east was St John’s parish.

St Canice

The Catholic parish records for St Canice started in 1768.  I have searched these and have found the records of a James and Mary Whelan in the 1850s that also featured in the Griffiths survey of 1849 (as Hade). They were living at Butts Cross, an old part of the parish where traces of other ancestors living in Butts went back to 1816.  Descendants from this family, using the Heade variant, emigrated to America in 1870. I have lost track of them after 1920 and have not found a living descendant.

James married Mary Whelan in 1840 and they had the following children:

  • Kath Hayde b 1841, Granges Road
  • Mary Heade b 1843, Butts
  • William Head b 1845, Dorans Lane
  • Judith Head b 1847, Granges Road
  • Ellen Heade b 1852, Granges Road
  • James Hade b 1855, Granges Road

James died around 1869 and Mary took the surviving children to America in 1870. They settled in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey. They have adopted Heade.  This is Tree # 20 and is described further in the New Jersey posts page.

Butts Cross is shown on the map below:

Center map


St Mary’s

The parish records for St Mary’s started in 1754 and I have found two families in these records in the late 1700s.  These were:

1) Henry Hayde, his wife Mary Mauris and children with births recorded as Hayde. One of the children, Richard, joined the army in 1790 and later fought at Waterloo.

2) Patrick Heade who married Catherine Carroll in 1777.  However I have found no trace of children.

St John’s

St John’s records started in 1809 and these showed a number of Hayde/Haid/Haide births and marriages in the mid 1800s.  I have traced descendants to 1911 Kilkenny City census records where they were using Haide and Hade surnames. The family can be summarised as:

James and Margaret Dowling and then Margaret Knaresboro from 1847:

  • Patrick – see below
  • Michael – see below
  • Johanna Hoyd b 1842, Whitehouse Road
  • James Hoyd b 1848, Whitehouse Road.
  • Joanna Hoyd b 1849, Whitehouse Road

Patrick (as per James’s marriage records)

  • James Hayde b circa 1865. A stone polisher. Mar Johanna Kavanagh in 1885
    • John Hayde b 1888, Walkin St. D 1888
    • James Haide b 1890
    • Joseph Haide b 1893
    • Thomas Haide b 1893. Joined Irish army 1922
    • John Haide b 1895. D 1896
    • Johanna Haide b 1901
    • James Haide b 1905. Joined Irish army 1922

Descendants are in Clogheen and have adopted Haide.

Michael (as per Thomas’s marriage record):

  • Thomas Haide b 1861. Mar Ellen Johnson (d 1896) in circa 1880 then Jane Buckley in 1901.
    • Mary Jane Hayde b 1881, Walkin St
    • Johanna Hayde b 1882, Mandlin St
    • Elizabeth Hayde b 1884, Mandlin St
    • Catherine Hayde b 1887, Mandlin St
    • Ellen Hayde b 1888, Mandlin St
    • Hannah Hayde b 1890, Mandlin St.
    • John Haide b 1904
    • Anne Haide b 1907
    • James Haide b 1909
    • Teresa Haide b 1912
    • Anastasia Haide b 1914
    • Mary Haide b 1920
    • Joseph Haide b 1923

Descendants are in Kilkenny. They adopted Haide.

Thomas was a drummer in the Kilkenny Militia in the 1880s. Thomas joined the Militia again for 4 years at Wexford in 1900 aged 39 years 7 months.  He was then living at St Mary’s, New Ross, Wexford.  He was a musician and was a widower with 2 girls.  He had previously served 12 years with the Royal Irish and had been discharged in 1897. He was 5ft 4 ½ inches tall, fresh complexion, grey eyes and dark hair. He was discharged in 1908 and his character was noted as being very good.

In the valuation records they were in Walkin St Upper, Guard Lane and Mandlin St, the same places as Thomas and Ellen and James and Johanna. Michael and Patrick are probable children of James and Margaret.

I believe these families originated in Butts Cross in the St Canice parish and are related.

The detailed notes on the research in this area can be seen at Kilkenny City Families

  One Response to “Kilkenny City, Ireland Families”

  1. Hi David,
    My name is Aoife My Great Grandmother was Haide (Hade, Hayde) from Kilkenny city and you have her on your website here. Her name was Johanna Haide ( later went by Julia ) Daughter of Thomas Haide and Ellen Johnson. (page 6 of Kilkenny city PDF)
    However I think you have her down as marrying someone in Roscrea in 1899. She actually married Francis O’shea (Shea) of Ballyhale / Knocktopher Co. Kilkenny they married in 1906 (Julia is the name on the marriage cert however on the birth cert for their first child Anne Shea, 1906 it’s Johanna) and you can also see her sister Elizabeth in the 1911 census staying with her in Knocktopher.
    If you need me to send you any info I have please contact me. I’m delighted to have come across your website .

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