Nov 092017

Edward and Martha

As described in the Killballyherberry posts page, this family originates from that area.

It starts with a Patrick Hayde, a descendant of Philip and Maria Kearney, who were farming at Killballyherberry in the 1600s.

Patrick was the eldest son of Thomas and Cath. He married Margaret Farrell in Carlow around 1840 and they emigrated to London shortly afterwards. The Carlow marriage reference came from the 1870 extract shown below.  I have not found this in any parish record.

They had 4 children in the Westminster area, most of whom died in London at an early age.

One son (Edward Harry b 1848) survived and joined the British army (67th Foot) at Taunton, Somerset (where he was living) in 1867. He was a violin player and his army career involved him playing in the band and being the bandmaster.

I could not find this family in the 1861 UK census.  Part of the problem I have with finding this family is due to their itinerant nature.  Patrick (a musician), and Margaret Farrell, had Edward (my great grandfather) in Westminster in 1848 (parish or street unknown), Margaret in St Mary’s Westminster (cottage at back of 48 Marsham St) in 1849, Patrick in St John’s Westminster (56 Orchard St by Westminster Cathedral) in 1853, John in St Luke’s (6 Edmonds Place, off Aldersgate St near what is now the Barbican) in 1855 and Ellen in Marylebone (16 George St) 1858.  Patrick died {in Marylebone in 1854}, John in the Earls Court Workhouse in 1861, Margaret (a musician) in the Workhouse in Greenwich in 1869 and Ellen (a laundress in Deptford) in Greenwich in 1888.

In between, Margaret (nee Farrell) died in Wolverhampton (Back Lane, part of the Irish slum known as Caribee Island at the time) in 1861. She was in the civil records as Aide.

A map of this area in the 1870s is shown below:

Back Lane is now a main road leading out of the Wolverhampton railway station seen on the right.

I have found Patrick (the elder) in the 1871 London census.  He was listed as Patrick Hyde, widower, born 1803 in County Tipperary, Ireland, residing in the Islington Workhouse.  I have found his movements from 1869 – 1873 (when he died) in the Greenwich, Islington and Croydon areas. I found Patrick in the Islington Workhouse records in 1870 as a pauper. The civil records show Patrick Hayde died in 1873 in Croydon Workhouse aged 70 (ie born 1803).

The first entry of Patrick Hayde into the Islington parish records in October 1870 confirmed his age, place of birth and parents.  It also described him as being a bag pipe player and as also having a dislocated hip which probably entitled him to treatment in the parish. This entry is shown below:

The area in Westminster that they were recorded in when Patrick was baptised in 1853 adjoined a notorious slum called Devil’s Acre.  Cardinal Wiseman described the area in 1850 as:

Close under the Abbey of Westminster there lie concealed labyrinths of lanes and courts, and alleys and slums, nests of ignorance, vice, depravity and crime as well as of squalor, wretchedness and disease.  The population, nominally Catholic, haunts of filth.

The Devil’s Acre with the Palace of Westminster in the background, in an 1872 illustration by Gustave Doré. The illustration shows the Devil’s Acre some years into the slum clearance, with the courtyard of small low-lying houses surrounded by multi-occupancy houses fronting onto Old Pye Street.

Above is a map of the Westminster area of London in 1868. It shows Orchard St, off Dean Street, where the family lived in 1849.

Above is a map of the City of London about the same time period. It shows Edmonds Place off Aldersgate Street at the top centre.

Edward and Martha

Edward enlisted for a 12 year term with the 67th Foot at Taunton, where he was living, on 9/3/1867.[1]  He received a bounty of one pound to sign up and his trade was listed as a violin player.  He was 19 years old, 5ft 91/4 tall, sallow complexion, grey eyes and dark brown hair. He was illiterate at the time and the document recorded an X as his mark of signature.  He joined the unit in Cork, Ireland.  The units’ movements were as follows:

Curragh Camp (Dublin)                                   Jan 1868

Portsmouth                                                      June 1868

Aldershot                                                          August 1869

Dover                                                                February 1871

Shorncliffe                                                       September 1871

Departed for Burma                                      31 October 1872

East Indies (India)                                           4 March 1876 to 11 April 1888[2]

In 1881 the 67th foot became 2nd Battalion Hampshire Regiment.  In 1887 Edward transferred to the 1st Battalion, probably to enable him to stay in India.

Edward married Catherine Gilaghan while at Shorncliffe Camp, Kent on 12/3/1872.[3]  Catherine died on 7 July 1873[4] (aged 25) and Edward remarried a Martha Rebecca Featherstone on 2 May 1876.

Edward re-engaged for a 21 year total service period in December 1874.  He received several good conduct awards and was promoted Lance Corporal in 1882, Corporal in 1884 and Bandmaster Sergeant in 1885.  He fought in the Afghanistan campaigns of 1878 and 1880. The medals he was awarded would have looked like:

He passed his Third Class education certificate in Sept 1883 by which time he could sign his own name and ensure that the army records also had his name spelt correctly.  What I am not sure about is how he knew what the right spelling was when based in India, miles from other family.

The Royal Hampshire Regimental Museum in Winchester has copies of the monthly regimental magazine called “Our Chronicle”.  It was started in 1872 when the regiment arrived in Burma and recorded the social, administrative and military activities of the regiment.  Edward featured in it several times in connection with his violin performances.  One article said “The violin solos of Private Hayde well sustained his fairly earned reputation.  Hayde was vociferously encored”.

Patrick was recorded in the Chelsea Pensioners lists of 22 May 1888 as being eligible for a pension after 21 years service.

A son of Edward, Frederick Joseph, enlisted in the Royal Artillery in Madras on 21 September 1897.  He was 14 years 11 months old, 4ft 11in tall, fair complexion, fair hair, and grey eyes.  He was discharged as a Corporal on 22 March 1910 having served 12 years.  During this time he spent 3 years in England (1904 to 1907) with the rest of the service done in India.

Two of Edward’s other sons (he had 8 sons and I daughter) also served in the British army.  These were Edward Samuel born 1879 (enlisted 1893 and served 21 years), and Patrick George born 1888.

The youngest son, Ernest Victor, born 1897, served in the Indian army during WW2.

Their family tree can be summarised as:

  • Ellen Rebecca Hayde b 1877, Madras
  • Edward Samuel Hayde b 1879, Bangalore
  • Frederick Joseph Hayde b 1882, Cannamore
  • Henry James Hyade b 1884, Bangalore
  • Albert Featherstone Hayde b 1886, Secunderabad
  • Patrick George Hayde b 1888, Secunderabad
  • Walter Driscoll Hayde b 1890, Secunderabad
  • Cyrill John Hayde b 1892, Deesa
  • Ernest Victor Hayde b 1897, Poona
  • Millicent Anne Hayde b 1903, Bangalore

A photo of Edward in the early 1900s is

A family group photo:

The family tree can be seen in detail at



[1] The enlistment form recorded him as Edward Hayd

[2] The service records have him as Hayd to 1872 and then Hayde thereafter although at times the e was dropped for a while and then returned.

[3] This marriage was recorded in the Civil records under the name Hayd

[4] Recorded in “Our Chronicle”





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