In the 1800s a list was made of residents from the Hearth Money Rolls, which later perished in the PRO fire.<\/p>\n
The only slightly relevant entry (apart from Haydens) was Nicholas Hide, Lucan Towne (Townland), Lucan Parish, 2 hearths. There is however no record of any relevant descendants in the research undertaken in the 1800s onwards.<\/p>\n
As described in the Irish Research Page, I have searched all the parish records together with directories, telephone books etc and constructed the trees described below. All the arrivals in the 1800s came from Kildare\/Wicklow apart from a few from Tipperary and Carlow later in the century. This web page just focuses on the early arrivals. They can be summarised as:<\/p>\n
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This tree, as it relates to Dublin, reflects the ancestors who clearly originated in Kildare\/Wicklow and can be linked together from the various records.<\/p>\n
The other families in Dublin may also originate in Kildare\/Wicklow but have their own tree references of Tree # 16 and # 18 as the connections are not proven.<\/p>\n
The families in Dublin that are part of Tree # 3 are:<\/p>\n
Patrick b 1842 mar Bridget Lynch Dunlavin, 1869<\/strong><\/p>\n
Patrick b 1822 mar Mary Lynch, Commons (by Dowdestown 1840)<\/strong><\/p>\n
Patrick and Eleanor (Mary) Keoghe, Dunlavi<\/strong>n<\/p>\n
James and Rose from Donard<\/strong><\/p>\n
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In the early 1800s, there were several families in the Dublin south parish records who all appeared to have some connection because of where there were living, some common names or other related factors. These families probably originated in the Kildare\/Wicklow area and are probably related to the families in Tree # 3. These were:<\/p>\n
Christopher (b 1768) who married Margaret Byrne in St Paul’s parish in 1806.<\/strong><\/p>\n
Christopher was in the North Dublin workhouse in 1840 and died there in 1844.<\/p>\n
Matthew was convicted of being a pick pocket in Dublin in 1832 and was sentenced to 7 years in Australia.\u00a0 He married there and subsequently settled in Australia\u00a0 There are many Hade descendants in NSW, Australia that can be traced back to Matthew.<\/p>\n
The DNA of a descendant shows {add}<\/p>\n
Christopher is a very unusual name.\u00a0 It only appears in the family in a small number of cases, as does Matthew.\u00a0 Any users of these names therefore must have some connection. The Christopher b 1862 to Matthew and Catherine must show some linkage between the families.<\/p>\n
Henry born circa 1795.<\/strong> He was in the 1851 Dublin census as well as the William O’Brien records of 1848. He was probably baptised as an adult in Rathmines in 1852.<\/p>\n
Henry could have had a family in Dunlavin in the early 1800s. Henry does not feature very often in the family records and its use signifies a probably connection.<\/p>\n
John Hade b circa 1810 mar Elizabeth Baxter 1837
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William Hayde, a smith, b circa 1815 and Catherine Vins. <\/strong>In Donnybrook in 1849
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William and Catherine married in 1838 in the Dunlavin parish.<\/p>\n
Descendants are in Dublin as Heade<\/p>\n
James Hade b circa 1816 and Bridget Flanagan. <\/strong>In Roundtown, Rathfarnham 1849
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Descendants are in Dublin as Heade.<\/p>\n
William (and\/orThomas) b circa 1820 and Rose Moyles<\/strong><\/p>\n
William and Joanna were in Manchester in 1881. Descendants settled in Manchester and have adopted Haide.<\/p>\n
Patrick Hade b circa 1824 and Ester Riley from Ballymore Eustace<\/strong><\/p>\n
Patrick and Sarah had their first child in Ballymore Eustace in 1847. They second child Mary, was baptised in Ballymore Eustace in 1852 and St Pauls, Dublin in 1853.<\/p>\n
Descendants are in Pennsylvania as Heade.<\/p>\n
Michael Hade b circa 1830 and Margaret Maher<\/strong>. Michael was a tailor from Roundtown, South Dublin<\/p>\n
Michael and…<\/p>\n
Descendants are in Dublin as Heade.<\/p>\n
The tree groups some of these people together but in reality the precise connections prior to the 1800s are a bit of a guess.\u00a0 The tree is at https:\/\/www.ancestry.co.uk\/family-tree\/tree\/51972226\/family<\/a><\/p>\n
In 1826 there was a major bank crisis in England which resulted in many textile factories in Dublin becoming uneconomic.\u00a0 Many of these factories closed and the staff were unemployed.\u00a0 Many of the newly unemployed men were used to repair roads in various parts of Dublin during the summer of 1826. James Hayde (a wool dyer with a family of 5) and Pat Hayde (a spinner with a family of 3) were in these records of labourers.<\/p>\n
James was living at 5 Newmarket and Pat at Tenters (an area close to Newmarket). These were areas in Dublin City just south of the river. James probably joined the British army (46th Foot) and was stationed in Canada in 1822. He was born 1799 in St Michans parish and was a tailor. {check for his army records}.<\/p>\n
There are various records in the St Catherines (Meath Street), St Michaels (Lower Exchange Street) and St Andrews (Westland Row) Catholic parishes in the late 1700s and early 1800s that could\u00a0 relate to these families. However the linkages are not clear.<\/p>\n
What is clear is that two descendants married and had families at St Michans and St Catherines parishes on the northside of the river in the 1850s. These were:<\/p>\n
Pat, a painter, who married Ann Loran in 1848<\/strong><\/p>\n
James and Sarah Byrne<\/strong><\/p>\n
Both these families lived in the same areas.\u00a0 They were in Walshes Row in the 1850s, Penders Court and Dorset St in the 1860s then Murphy’s Cottages and Summerhill in the 1890s.<\/p>\n
A descendant has undertaken a DNA test and the results show that his DNA is very similar to these from Tipperary (Trees # 1, 9, and 10) and also from Tree # 3 which has Kildare\/Wicklow origins.<\/p>\n
The assumption therefore is that these families moved from Kildare\/Wicklow to Dublin in the late 1700s.<\/p>\n
The family tree can be seen at https:\/\/www.ancestry.co.uk\/family-tree\/tree\/52117927\/family<\/a><\/p>\n
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John and Mary<\/strong> \u2013 139 Francis St dairy 1846-50 then 16 Mill St in 1851 and O\u2019Briens 1848).<\/p>\n
John and Catherine Cullen m 1827.\u00a0<\/strong> Connection ?<\/p>\n
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Henry and Mary<\/strong> from Kilkenny (m 1774 \u2013 assume recorded late)<\/p>\n
Patrick and Catherine Carroll from St Marys Kilkenny<\/strong> (m 1777)<\/p>\n
Others:<\/p>\n
A much more detailed record and research notes of the various families from the parish, civil and other records can be seen at Dublin Families<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
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