Mar 252024
David Hayde
Mar 272025
In 1666/7 James Heade was in Farranrory. By the 1820s there was a Patrick Heade at Boula, this borders Farranrory as can be seen from the map above.
At the time of the 1850 valuations, the two families living at Boula were John and Lawrence Hayde. I believe they were the sons of Patrick and Catherine Hogan. The Catholic parish records for the area (Gortnahoe parish) started in 1805 and there were many baptisms recorded in 1805 and 1806 without parents names noted. It seems that there was a mass move to baptise everyone including adults as the parish started. Patrick was one of these in 1806.
In 1850 there was also a Bridget Hayde in Knockalonga, who is probably related but I have not been able to trace her in the parish records.
This page is devoted to the families that are linked to Boula.
No DNA tests have been done on descendants from this area.
In Griffiths in 1850 John Hayde was occupying 39 acres owned by Edward Cooke Esq. The valuation records showed:
- Patrick Hayde occupying 23 acres in the 1840s, that he was leasing for 31 years from 1837
- Lawrence Hayde on a small plot in the 1840s
- John Hayde occupying 46 acres into the 1870s. His descendants continued on this site into the 1900s as well as further plots of 34 and 32 acres. The Griffiths map below shows the location of plot 28 (the 46 acres) circled in blue.
Patrick Heade b abt 1780 and Catherine Hogan
Their children were:
- Elena Heade b 1806
- Michael Heade b 1808
- John Hayde b 1810 Coalbrook, who was farming 46 acres in 1850 in Boulea and by 1890 was farming 100 acres. He married Mary Croake and their children were:
- Patrick Hayde b 1853. Mar Hannah Finane
- John Hayde b 1892
- Denis Hayde b 1895
- Mary Hayde b 1898
- James Hayde b 1853
- William Hayd b 1854
- Johanna Hayd b 1856
- John Hayd b 1858
- Mary Hayde b 1859
- Michael Head b 1861
- Hannah Hayde b 1862
- Patrick Hayde b 1853. Mar Hannah Finane
- Nicholas Heade b 1812 Coalbrook
- Patrick Heade b 1815
- Laurence Hayde, who was also in Boulea in the 1850s. He married Mary Butler and they had 8 girls. (note Laurence was not in the parish records and I have assumed this connection).
- Thomas Hayde b 1817 Glengoole, who married Mary Hennessy and had moved to Clonmel by the 1850s. They had:
- John Hayde b 1848 Ballingarry
- James Hayde b 1849 Ballingarry
- Thomas Hayde b 1852 St Mary’s, Clonmel parish
- Catherine Hayde b 1854 St Mary’s Clonmel
- James Hayde b 1856 Powerstown parish
- Mary Hayde b 1859 Grallagh, Moycarky parish
I have found no living male descendants of Patrick. The family in Boula seems to have died out in the late 1900s.
In Boula there was also the following:
1) Lawrence b 1812 who moved to Cardiff and settled there
Lawrence (b 1812) and Ellen Doran arrived in Cardiff around 1836. Descendants are in Cardiff. Their Irish origins are unknown but the most logical assumption is that they came from this area as Doran families were neighbours of the Hayde families in Boula. The descendants of Lawrence and Ellen are described further in the Welsh Family Posts.
2) William b circa 1795, who was a teacher at Lisnamrock in 1824
William married Catherine Walsh and they had the following children bap in Ballingarry parish (which started in 1814):
- Richard Heade b circa 1815
- Thomas Hayes b 1816. D before 1854 as not mentioned as a sibling of Henry’s in 1854
- Henry Heade b 1818. A pedlar in New York in 1854. Mar Catherine Duffy
- William Hade b 1858, Chicago
- Michael Hayde b circa 1860. Living South Amboy, Middlesex, NJ in the 1860s
- Catherine Hade b 1866 Chicago
- William Hade b 1823. D before 1854 as not mentioned as a sibling of Henry’s in 1854
- Ellen Hade b 1823
- Cath Heade b 1828
Henry and Ellen were in New York in the 1850s.
Richard, was transported to Australia in 1843 for 14 years. He was convicted of appearing armed and assaulting habitation. He lived with his widowed mother Catherine at Lisnamrock at the time. Richard arrived in Tasmania in 1843 and was pardoned and went to Melbourne in 1854. An advert in the Boston Pilot by Henry indicated that Richard was sailing to America in 1872.
Henry Hayde had a bank account at the New York Emigrant Savings Bank by 1854. It recorded his birth in 1828 as being the son of William and Cath Walsh from Ballingarry. The parish records however show his birth in 1818 and that they were from the village of Boula in Ballingarry. The bank records stated that he arrived on the Leviathan on 7 March 1853, although these arrival records are not on ancestry.com.
An 1860 entry in the bank records shows his address as being NJ and his wife as being Catherine Duffy with Michael, a child. He enlisted in the army at Albany in 1849 aged 25 (b 1824) and discharged 1854. He again enlisted in 1861 (aged 29 – b 1832) and was discharged July 1864 only to enlist again in Sept 1864. He died 1880 and Catherine was awarded a pension in Ohio in 1890.
Catherine (b 1847) was in the 1900 census with William (b 1871), Mary (b 1875), Ellen (b 1877), Anne (b 1880) and Helen (b 1882). She was described as having arrived in 1866 and as having had 7 children with 4 living.
Margaret was in the Toledo city directories for 1877 and Catherine was in this directory in 1887. William Hayde was also in the 1887 directory at the same address as Catherine.
The 1900 Toledo directory recorded Catherine, Annie C (a seamstress), Mary E (also a seamstress), Nellie and William P as all living at the same address.
A James H Hade was in the Toledo directory in 1910 and could be a child of William.
I have found no descendants of any of these people.
3) Patrick and Mary Deen
Patrick and Mary had a child bap in the Ballingarry parish:
- Judith Heade b 1817 from Boula
Patrick was probably (but not positively) the Pat Head in the Boula Tithe records farming 25 acres in 1834 as they were described as being from Boula in 1817. (rather than the Patrick who married Catherine Hogan). Given that there were no other children baptised to Pat and Mary, they may have been born in something like the 1770s and Judith was their last child.
4) John and Ellen Connelly
Like Pat and Mary above, John and Ellen had a child bap in the Ballingarry parish shortly after it opened:
- John Heade b 1817 from Boula
I think John (as Hayde) arrived in New South Wales on 18 Oct 1840 on Isabella. Mary Hayde b 1820 was also on board. I’m not sure what connection she had with John but must have been a close relative. I have not found any trace of them in Australia after they arrived.
I have constructed a tree around these families in Boula (Tree # 2) and this can be seen at the following ancestry web site https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/52746022/family
Nov 262017
Lawrence b 1812 and Ellen Doran
As was mentioned in the Ballingarry posts page, Lawrence was born in Ireland in 1812 and moved to Cardiff with his wife, Ellen Dorman/Doran/Dearan/Davern, in circa 1836. They had 5 sons and 3 daughters. The civil records had 1 birth recorded as Hade and 2 as Hayd. The rest were recorded as Hayde.
According to a relative, Lawrence was a groom on an estate in Ireland and Ellen was apparently the daughter of the house and that they eloped together. This probably explained why they ended up in Cardiff. Lord Bute was recruiting labourers at the time to help build the wharves in Cardiff. It appears that Lawrence continued to work with horses in Cardiff.
Lawrence is not a common name in the Hayde family. It was used in Tipperary in Wicklow in the late 1700s and early 1800s.
I have searched for Doran/Dorman/Dearan/Davern families in Ireland and have found a Doran family in Boula, Ballingarry that lived not far from a Lawrence Hayde in the 1850s. I believe that this is the most likely origin of Lawrence and Ellen.
In the 1800s they lived in central Cardiff in what is now Barrack Lane plus Mary Anne Street and John Street. These streets are shown on a map from this time period below:
Two sons had families in Wales. Descendants are mainly in Wales.
A grandson, John Lawrence, served as a stoker in the Royal Naval Reserve Force on HMS Coleen from 1914-1919. Another grandson, Thomas, was killed during WW1.
The early descendants of Lawrence and Ellen are:
- Mary Ann Hayde b 1835, The 1841 census shows her as born Cardiff but in 1851 and 1861 her birth was recorded as Ireland. There is no sign of her baptism in Ireland or Cardiff.
- John Hayde b 1837, Cardiff. Mar Catherine Howells
- Anne Hayde b 1864
- Laurence Hayde b 1868. D 1868
- Mary Catherine Hayde b 1870
- John Lawrence Hayde b 1872. Mar Ellen Griffiths
- John Hayde b 1902
- William Lawrence Hayde b 1910
- Michael Hayde b 1839, Cardiff. Mar Margaret Christopher
- John Lawrence b 1876. D 1876
- Thomas Hayde b 1842, Cardiff. Mar Catherine Coughlin
- James Hayde b 1864. Mar Margaret Ruby then Ellen Heap
- James Hayde b 1888
- Nancy Hayde b 1905
- Catherine Hayde
- Ellen Hayde b 1867
- Thomas Hayde b 1869
- James Hayde b 1864. Mar Margaret Ruby then Ellen Heap
- Ann Hannah Hayde b 1844, Cardiff
- James Hayde b 1847, Cardiff. D 1888
- Richard Hayde b 1849, Cardiff. D 1849
- Ellen Hayde b 1850, Cardiff
A more modern map with Barrack Lane pin pointed is below:
Further details are available from the ancestry web site at https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/52746022/family
The UK census records containing more details on this family are:
England, Wales and Scotland Census Extracts 1841 – 1911 {add latest}
The Family Posts page for Ballingarry covers more detail around other descendants from Ballingarry.
Mar 272025
In the 1850s, there was a Matthew Hayde at Derryvella and Judith Hayde at Gorteen Lower.
These families may have descended from James Heade who was at Poynstown in 1666 or from other families in the area. Descendants are:
Matthew Hayde at Derryvella
There was no sign in the Catholic parish records of Matthew.
James and Judith Conway – Tree # 14
They were from Gorteen Lower and had:
- Elizabeth Heade b 1827
- John Hede b 1828
- Margaret Head b 1830
- Mary Heade b 1832
- James Heade b 1834
- Edmund Heade b 1837
- Bridget Heade b 1841
- Ellen Heade b 1843 Lickfinn
Judith was prob at Gorteen Lower in 1850, which probably means that James died before then. She was there until the 1860s when they emigrated to America. They are covered in more detail in the Chicago Family Posts and are known as Tree # 14.
Jul 262018
James and Judith/Johanna Conway
As was mentioned in the Ballingarry posts page, James Hayde and Judith or Johanna Conway married in 1826 and had 8 children in the Gortnahoe and Ballingarry parishes in Tipperary, Ireland in the 1820s, 30s and 40s. They were probably from the village of Gorteen Lower where Judith was recorded in the Griffiths records of 1850, although in 1843 they were in Lickfinn.
The only record for a James born around the right time period was a James Hayde born 1806 to a James and Mary Herrick in Cashel parish. The connection is tenuous however there is some distance between Cashel and Ballingarry. Ballingarry parish records only started in 1814 so he may have been born before these catholic parish records were started.
Johanna and her children were in Chicago by 1870. James probably died before 1850.
Gorteen Lower is marked on the map below:
The parish records showed that James and Johanna married in 1826 and they had the following children:
- Elizabeth b 18 Jan 1827
- John b 21 Sept 1828
- Margaret b Oct 1830
- Mary b 9 Nov 1832
- James b 30 May 1834. Mar Elizabeth Coulter 1858
- Edmund Charles b 28 Apr 1837. Mar Catherine Moran circa 1865
- Bridget b 1841
- Ellen b 1843. Mar Albert McVittie 1872
The 1900 census described James as having arrived in 1854 and Edmund as having arrived in 1860 (presumably with Johanna and Ellen). I have found no trace of John. The 1920 census however stated that Edmund arrived in 1854. It seems likely that they arrived together in 1854.
It was common for new settlers in Chicago to have initially arrived in Canada before moving to America. However I have not yet been able to trace their arrivals in either Canada or America.
James was Naturalised in 1868 and Edmund in 1888.
They both married and had families as can be seen in the family tree at https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/51471748/family
The families can be summarised below.
James Hayde b 1834 and Elizabeth Coulter
James married Elizabeth Coulter in 1858 in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada and they had 7 children. Elizabeth was born in Hamilton so they celebrated their marriage in her parish.
One son was a policeman and another worked at Hayde and Reilly, a drygoods firm. There does not seem to be a surviving male from this family.
Elizabeth died 1914, b 1838. She is buried Calvary, Evanston.
Descendants are:
- Elizabeth b 1859 Hamilton. Ontario, Canada. Mar Keiran Ryan
- James P b 1861 Chicago. Mar Hattie Elenore Hull 1891
- Marion b 1891. Mar Walter Vestal 1915
- Hortense b 1893
- William C b 1863. Clerk. He joined the army in 1883 and was discharged in 1884. D 1884. His obituary said he was from Tipperary.
- John Wilson b 1865. Mar Catherine Voigt 1888. D 1940
- James Henry. b 1888, d 1895
- Ethel Evelina Teresa b 1889 All Saints parish. Mar Ray Bright 1920s
- James Francis b 1891 All Saints parish
- Robert C b 1868. Mar Alice McNeill Hopper 1892
- Loyola Agatha b 1893 St Vincent de Paul parish. Mar Stanley Ralph Yates 1925
- Helen b 1870
- Mary Elizabeth b 1872, Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary parish, Mar George Patterson Koehler
In 1866, James owned a cemetery plot at Calvary, Evanston. He was buried there in 1925 together with Elizabeth who died in 1914, Keiran Ryan who died in 1933 and Alice Hayde (presumably nee Hopper) who died in 1938. See below:
Edmund Hayde b 1837 and Catherine Moran
Edmund married Catherine Moran circa 1865 and they had 10 children, 8 of whom were alive in 1900. 2 daughters became nuns and 2 others were school teachers. He was involved in one of the great historical events of Chicago because a business he ran of Hayde and O’Brien was destroyed in the Great Fire of 1871.
I have not found their marriage in America. They both arrived in 1860 according to the 1900 census so they could have married in Canada (or elsewhere) before arriving.
Edmund died in 1928.
Descendants (all born Chicago) are:
- James A b 1867. Mar Margaret Reidy (b 1868) 1896 St Cecilia parish, Cook County
- Margaret Mary b 1897 St James parish
- Alice C b 1899 St James parish
- James b 1905 Nativity of our Lord parish. Mar Gertrude 1929
- Margaret b 1939
- Thomas Joseph b 1904 Nativity of our Lord parish. Mar Mary J and then June Iris Donnelly 1947
- Clementine
- Thomas W
- Mary A b 1868
- Mary Loyola b 1869. D 1950
- Ellen b 1870. D 1939. Buried Calvary. Mar Edward Deegan
- Julia (Mary Ruth) b 1871
- Catherine b 1873. Mar Joseph Brown
- Alice G b 1876 Holy Name Cathedral parish. A teacher
- Evelyn M b 1879. D 1968. Buried Mount Olivet, A teacher
Mary and Julia (Mary Ruth) became nuns.
Other Chicago Families that could be Related to James and Judith Conway
In the 1850s and 1860s the following families were in Chicago and could be related:
Henry Hade b circa 1830 and Cath Duffy
Henry is the son of William and Catherine Walsh from Boula, Ballingarry, Tipperary accoring to the New Emigrant Savings Bank Records. He died 1880 and Catherine was awarded a pension in Ohio in 1890.
Boula is not far from Gorteen Lower and a connection is a high probability.
In 1860, the New York Emigrant Bank showed him living in NJ with Catherine Duffy and Michael, a child. He was in Albany in 1849 when he joined the army when he served until 1854. He enlisted again in 1861 and was discharged in 1864. He was in Chicago in 1864 and 1867.
He is not in the 1850, 1860, 1870 and 1880 census records {check these}.
Henry and Cath had:
- William Hade b 1858 Chicago
- Catherine Hade b 1866 Chicago
William and Catherine were both baptised in the Holy Family Church. This church dates back to 1858 and is on West Roosevelt St in central Chicago.
Bernard Hayde b circa 1830
In 1860, a Bernard Hade was in New York having been naturalized in 1856. By 1880, a Bernard Hayde born NY was in Chicago. This could be a son and there may be a connection between Bernard and James/Judith but any connection is as yet unproven.
Descendants are:
- Bernard b Ireland circa 1830
- Bernard Hayde b 1855, NY. Mar Helen/Ellen Walsh 1874 Old St John parish, Cook County, Chicago. D 1909. Buried Calvary
- Patrick Joseph b 1875. Mar Jane Bartley 1896. D 1945. Buried Calvary
- Irene Hayde b 1897
- Bernard b 1877
- John b 1880, d 1884
- James Joseph b 1882
- Mary b 1886
- Patrick Joseph b 1875. Mar Jane Bartley 1896. D 1945. Buried Calvary
- John F Hayde b 1862, Ireland. He was dry goods salesman in 1900. He arrived in 1879. In 1880 he was a Hayd and by 1900 a Hayde and single. The connection to Bernard is yet to be proven.
- Bernard Hayde b 1855, NY. Mar Helen/Ellen Walsh 1874 Old St John parish, Cook County, Chicago. D 1909. Buried Calvary
James and Mary were baptised in the Holy Family Church as was Irene in 1897.
I have not traced any descendants of any of these families and any further information would be welcome
Chicago Families from County Carlow (Tree # 15)
John Hade b 1846 and Kate/Cath Barry
John was born in New York. He and Cath had:
- James Hade b 1871
- John Hade b 1873. D 1910. Buried Mt Carmel, Hillside
- Nicholas Hade b 1875. D 1907. Buried Mt Carmel, Hillside
- Harriet Hade b 1877
- Edward Hade b 1878
- Edward Michael Hade b 1879
- Kate Hade b 1881
All the children were born in Illinois. They were in Sherman St, Chicago in the 1880 census as Hade. John was a hackman. Nicholas and Kate were baptised at Old St Mary’s in S Michigan Ave and Edward a little further north at St Peter’s.
John (b 1846) died 1922. He was buried at Mount Carmel, Hillside, Cook County. In 1920 he was rooming with others including an Elizabeth Hade (b 1860) in Warren Avenue.
The 7 May 1922 death records note that he was born 5 Feb 1846 in Flushing to John and Catherine Courtney. His spouse was Mary E.
Patrick Hade b 1817 and Jane Garrett b 1824
Two brothers were in Chicago by 1860. The older brother (Patrick) had married in Carlow in 1844 and had arrived with his wife Jane by 1850. Maurice married in Carlow in 1851 and had arrived with his wife Catherine by 1860. I have not found their arrival records. They probably arrived in Chicago via Canada.
Patrick and Jane had:
- Mary b 1855
Patrick and Jane were in Chicago in 1850 and 1860 as Hade. He was a lumber inspector in 1860. By 1870 Jane was a widow and working as a grocer, the same occupation as Maurice. She was Hade in 1880 and Heade in 1880. In 1880 she was living in South Evanston.
Maurice (Morris) Hade b 1827 and Catherine
Maurice and Catherine had:
- Mary Elizabeth Hade b 1855 Chicago. Sponsors were Patrick Hade (Maurice’s brother) and Elizabeth Hade. (I am not sure of the Elizabeth connection).
- Ellen Ida Hade b 1856 Chicago. Mar Walter Gorman 1884
- Margaret Ann Hade b 1860 Chicago
- Michael John Hade b 1861 Chicago
Morris was a policeman in 1860 and a grocer in 1870. By 1880, Catherine was widowed and with Ida. They used Hade in all census records.
Mary and Ellen were baptised at Old St Patrick, Margaret at Holy Family Church and Michael at Old St Mary.
Maurice and Patrick Hayde owned a plot in Calvary, Evanston cemetery in 1865. Interned there were Ida and Walter Gorman who died in the 1920s and their three children who died in the 1940s. See below:
Mar 272025
The first map above is the Catholic parish map while the second is the civil parish map for the same area. The Title and Griffiths records follow the civil parish structure while the Catholic church records are structured according to the catholic parish.
The Ikerrin land that Robert Heade was on in 1666/7 was owned by Pierce Butler, the 4th Viscount Ikerrin. His grandnephew, Somerset Hamilton Butler, the 8th Viscount, was created the Earl of Carrick in 1748. He owned large estates in the Tipperary civil parishes of Lismalin, Twomileborris. Killavinage and Templetuohy as well as estates in Kilkenny and Limerick.
In 1834, a widow Headon farmed 7 acres at Lismalin, a Pat and John Headon farmed 7 acres and Thomas Headon farmed 6 acres. This was all land owned by the Earl of Carrisk. Thomas Headon could possibly have been the Thomas Hayde below.
By the time of Griffiths in 1850, there was a Thomas Hayde on a small plot at Islands, in the civil parish of Lismalin. This was reflected in the valuation records for the 1840s. He married Bridget Cuddihy in 1832 and had four girls in the 1830s and 1840s. It is possible that Thomas was descendant from Robert. The surname of his wife, Cuddihy, gives a clue to another connection. The name Cuddihy was prominent in Bolintlea in the 1830s.
In 1850, Thomas Hayde was on the small plot highlighted in blue in the map above. It was just a house with no land. The valuation records for the 1840s showed that was a workman for Richard Cormack who owned the land his house was on.
It appears that Richard Cormack leased the land from the Earl of Carrick.
There does not appear to be a male descendant from this area.
Mar 272025
In 1666/7 there was an Edward Heade at Lisnamrock and James Heade at Ballyphilip.
By the time of the Tithes there were:
- Michael Head at Knockadabe. This is Michael and Mary Cahill
- Two entries for James Head at Lickfinn
By the time of Griffiths in 1850 there was:
- Two James Hayde’s at Lickfinn. These are James and Elizabeth Wilson and James and Bridget Maher
- Michael Hayde at Lickfinn. This is Michael and Mary Cahill
- Pierce Hayden at Ballincurry. This is probably Pierce Hayde who married Bridget Pagan in 1847
In addition to the families in the Tithe and Griffiths records, the parish records included:
- Patrick and Ellen from Mardyke who emigrated to England between 1829 and 1831
- Edward and Mary Morgan
The map below shows the townships:
Michael and Mary Cahill
Michael and Mary were in Knockadabe in 1830 and Lickfinn 11b (owned by Palliser Weyland esq) in 1850. They had:
- James Heade b 1832 Ballingarry
- John Heade b 1834 Ballingarry. John was a hostelier who married Catherine Ryan in Mass in 1864.
- Michael Hayde b 1865 Mass
- Mary Hayde b 1867 Mass. In Boston in 1900.
- John Hayde b 1869 Mass
- Elizabeth Heade b 1837 Ballingarry
- Mary Heade b 1840 Lickfinn
- Margaret Heade b 1843 Ballingarry
John and Catherine were in Boston in 1870 and by 1880 John was a widow with just Michael and Mary in the household (as Head). In 1907, a Mary Hayde placed an advert in the ‘Boston Pilot’ seeking Michael Joseph Hayde born Boston 1867, a son of John and Catherine Ryan of Tipperary. Michael had last been heard of 13 years ago in Buffalo NY. Mary Hayde was in Boston in the 1900 census.
Boston city directories for 1885-1899 recorded a Richard Hayde, a hostelier, and his widow Margaret. Given he had the same (and unusual) occupation as John, he may well have been another son. There was no sign of them in 1900.
James and Elizabeth Wilson
James and Elizabeth were in Lickfinn in 1834 and 1850 (either 11c (owned by Palliser Weyland esq) or 22b (owned by John Langley esq)). They had:
- William Heade b 1812, Lickfinn, Gorthahoe parish
James was a collier in 1812.
James b abt 1800 and Biddy/Bridget Maher
James and Bridget were in Lickfinn in 1834 and 1850 (either 11c or 22b). They had:
- Michael Heade b 1826, Ballingarry parish. Michael probably joined the army and married Margaret Kerwick in Glengoole in 1878 and died in 1885
- Tom Heade b 1828, Gortnahoe parish
- John Hayde b 1833, Mardyke, Killenaule parish. Mar Mary Murphy in Yorkshire 1866. They had:
- William Hade b 1868, Rotheram. Mar Annie 1906
- Ernest Hade b 1908, Bolton d 1911
- Sidney Edmond Hade b 1909, Bolton d 1929
- John Hade b 1910
- Catherine Hade b 1870, Rotheram
- Mary Anne Hade b 1872, Rotheram
- Mary Ellen Hade b 1874, Rotheram
- Margaret Hade b 1875, Rotheram
- William Hade b 1868, Rotheram. Mar Annie 1906
- James Hayde b 1835, Mardyke
James possibly enlisted in the army at Kilkenny in 1820 and was discharged in 1824.
The movement of this family around 3 different parishes implies a connection between the families in these parishes.
Patrick and Ellen Doran/Dearan/Gorman
Patrick and Ellen (Doran/Dearan/Gorman) arrived in Oldham between 1829 and 1831 with 3 children. They had a further 3 children in Oldham. I found the baptism of the oldest child in the parish of Killenuale and Moyglass in 1836 where their residence was stated as Mardyke (I think they baptised an older child on a trip back to Ireland from Oldham).
Their children were:
- William Hayde b 1822, Ireland. Mar Maria Murray
- Mary E Hade b 1850, Oldham
- Ellen Hade b 1827, Ireland
- Mary Hade b 1829, Ireland. D before 1861
- Patrick Hade b 1831, Oldham. D 1880
- Michael Hade b 1834, Oldham. D before 1861
- John Hayde b 1837, Oldham D 1914 Cardiff. Became a priest
This family is discussed further in the Oldham posts page.
Edward and Mary Morgan
Edward Hade (b 1811), son of John a gardener, arrived in Wigan before 1840. He married Mary Morgan and had a son Peter in 1840. By 1851 both Mary and Peter had died and he remarried, as Edward Hayde, a Margaret Conroy.
I have not found his Irish origins but I am treating him as connected to Tree # 7 in the absence of any other option.
In 1851 a John Gorman was staying with them. This provides a link (tenuous) to Ellen Gorman who married Patrick above.
Mar 252025
Patrick b 1792 and Ellen Doran
Patrick and Ellen (Doran/Dearan/Gorman) arrived in Oldham between 1829 and 1831 with 3 children. They had a further 3 children in Oldham.
Their Irish origins are outlined in the Ballingarry parish, Lickfinn area page.
Patrick was an umbrella maker in 1841. He had died by the time of the 1851 census. Their children were:
- William Hayde b 1822, Ireland. Mar Maria Murray
- Mary E Hade b 1850, Oldham
- Ellen Hade b 1827, Ireland
- Mary Hade b 1829, Ireland. D before 1861
- Patrick Hade b 1831, Oldham. D 1880
- Michael Hade b 1834, Oldham. D before 1861
- John Hayde b 1837, Oldham. John became a priest
They lived in central Oldham – Grosvenor St, Water St, Booth St and Ironmonger St. These streets are in central Oldham as can be seen from the old map below:
John Hayde, was ordained as a priest in Italy in 1867. He was in Cork in 1861 and again from 1877 to 1887. From 1873 to 1877 and then from 1887 to 1914 (when he died) he was at parishes in Cardiff.
Official church records describe how he was very popular with parishioners. A photo of him in 1896/97 is below:
A close up is:
Mar 172025
As described in the Irish Research page, the tax records of 1666/7 Hearth showed a James Head at Rathdangin. The map below is from this time period and shows Rath-dragin south west of Fethard township. This I believe is the place referred to in the 1666/7 records.
Fethard is in the barony of Middlethird which in the 1659 census only showed 8 Headen and 5 O’Hea families. They were either counted as part of the O’Hea numbers or ignored due to their low usage.
By 1766, an Edm Head was in the village of Killusty in the parish of Kiltinan, Fethard. He is probably a descendant of the family in Rathdrangin in 1666.
By the 1800s, descendants were in the following areas:
| Cappa droma | Cloran | Cloran | Kilnag ranagh | Drangan | Fethard | Graigue | Knockelly | |
| 1820 | Michael | Edmond | James | William | ||||
| 1830 | Michael | Edmond | James | William | ||||
| 1840 | Michael | Margaret | Mary | John | William | |||
| 1850 | Richard | James | Michael | John | Thomas | |||
| 1860 | Richard | Catherine | Thomas |
I have found a James Hayde in extracts of the 1821 and 1831 census for St Mary’s Clonmel. It records him as being in Bagwell’s Row in the Western Suburbs of Clonmel. He was an outdoor servant. He probably married (as Hade) in Ardfinnan parish in 1835. This parish is west of Clonmel. I am not sure how he links to the families above.
These places are highlighted in the maps below. The first one is the southern area and the second one is more northern and includes Drangan.
The Fethard, Drangan and Gambonsfield parish pages that follow (and can be accessed by clicking on the links) cover the details of these families. These show how Head, Heade, Hayde and Hade were variously used in the parish records.
The page on Drangan, Cloneen and Killusty parish records shows how complicated tracking families can be with the constant changes in parish boundaries.
It seems probable that these families originate from the James Head in 1666/7. What is unclear is the linkage (if any) to the Head/Heade/Hayde/Hade families elsewhere. DNA testing has as yet shown no linkage however this is only based on one sample. More DNA testing is required to prove/disprove a link.
Mar 142025
The tax records of 1666/7 recorded:
- James Head from Kilballyherberry, Ballysheehan
- John Hyade/Haide at Ballinure
- Thomas Hade at Graystown
- Richard Head at Mortelstown, Cooleagh.
These were four of the 10 Heade (and variant) families recorded in Ireland at this time. The Irish Research page explains these families in more detail.
By the time of the religious census in 1766, the families in this area were:
- Philip and Maria Kearney and John and Maria Monaghan. These two couples both had large families that were baptised in the Killenaule parish records that started in 1742.
No records from the 1766 Religious census exist for the other areas mentioned above so the Catholic parish records and the Tithe taxes in 1830 need to be relied upon to pick up the thread of ancestors.
I have discussed these families under the following three headings:
Clicking on the links above will take you to the relevant page.
Families from this area all share the same DNA and I have managed to piece most of the family together under one tree that is numbered Tree # 1.
There are some family off shoots that can be traced back to this area and have the same DNA, but do not have a confirmed paper connection, and these are Trees # 6 and 9.
Tree # 10 also originates from this area and has a DNA connection to Tree #1. I have managed to determine the paper connection between Tree # 10 and Tree # 1 so have merged Tree # 10 into Tree # 1.
A map of the Catholic parishes is below:
This includes the townlands of Kilballyherberry, Dually, Carrow, Garraun, Ballinure, Noan, Foulkestown in the west and Mortelstown by Killenaule town. These are highlighted in yellow. This page does not include the places highlighted in green as they are covered in other pages.
The Civil parishes for the same area are shown on the map below:
