Dec 282017

As described in the Irish Research page, the tax records of this area in 1666/7 showed:

  • Edward Heade and James Heade in the Ballingarry area.
    • James was at Farranrory (by Bolintlea)
    • Edward was at Lisnamrock (by Ballyphilip)
  • James Heade at Ballyphilip (by Lickfinn and Knockadabe)
  • James Heade at Poynstown (this is west of Ballingarry by Gorteen)
  • Robert Heade at Ikerrin (in the civil parish of lismalin, south of Ballingarry)

They were probably four of the 10 Heade (and variants) families in the 1659 census.

By the time of the tithe taxes of the 1820s, the descendants in the area were:

  • Patrick Heade at Boula (Bolinthea).  He was baptized in 1806 when parish records were started.  He appears to have been an adult at the time and was sponsored by John Langley, a large landowner in the area.
  • Michael Head at Knockadabe
  • James Head at Lickfinn (note that there were two entries. They could be the same person at both locations or more likely two different families).

There were no descendants in the Lismalin area in the 1820s however by the 1850s there was a Thomas Hayde on a small plot at Islands, which is close to Lismalin. He married Bridget Cuddihy in 1832 and had four girls in the 1830s and 1840s

Lickfinn and Knockadabe are close together while Boula is further north as can be seen from the map below:

Boula (Bolintlea)

At the time of the 1850 valuations, the two families living at Boula were John and Lawrence Hayde, the sons of Patrick and Catherine Hogan.

The main branches to the Boula tree appear to be:

1)  The Lawrence who moved to Cardiff and settled there. Tree # 2

Lawrence (b 1812) and Ellen Doran arrived in Cardiff around 1836.  Descendants are in Cardiff. Their Irish origins are unknown but the most logical assumption is that they came from this area as Doran families were neighbours of the Hayde families in Boula. The descendants of Lawrence and Ellen are described further in the Welsh Family Posts.

2)  Patrick Heade from Boulea who was in the Tithe records in 1834. He married Catherine Hogan and their sons were:

  • John Hayde, who was farming 46 acres in 1850 in Boulea and by 1890 was farming 100 acres. He married Mary Croake and their children were:
    • Patrick Hayde b 1853. Mar Hannah Finane
      • John Hayde b 1892
      • Denis Hayde b 1895
      • Mary Hayde b 1898
    • James Hayde b 1853
    • William Hayd b 1854
    • Johanna Hayd b 1856
    • JohnHayd b 1858
    • Mary Hayde b 1859
    • Michael Head b 1861
    • Hannah Hayde b 1862
  • Laurence Hayde, who was also in Boulea in the 1850s. He married Mary Butler and they had 8 girls.
  • Thomas Hayde, who married Mary Hennessy and had moved to Clonmel by the 1850s. They had:
    • John Hayde b 1848
    • James Hayde b 1849
    • Thomas Hayde b 1852
    • Catherine Hayde b 1854
    • James Hayde b 1856
    • Mary Hayde b 1859

I have found no living male descendants of Patrick.

3)  William, who was a teacher at Lisnamrock in 1824. He married Catherine Walsh and they had:

  • Thomas Hayes b 1816. D before 1854 as not mentioned as a sibling of Henry’s in 1854
  • Henry Heade b 1818. A pedlar in 1854. Mar Catherine Duffy
    • Michael Hayde b circa 1860. Living South Ambry MJ in the 1860s
  • Richard Heade b circa 1820
  • William Hade b 1823. D before 1854 as not mentioned as a sibling of Henry’s in 1854
  • Ellen Hade b 1824
  • Cath Heade b 1828

Henry and Ellen were in New York in the 1850s.

Richard, was transported to Australia in 1843 for 14 years. He was convicted of appearing armed and assaulting habitation. He lived with his widowed mother Catherine at Lisnamrock at the time.

I have found no trace of Richard in Australia but an advert in the Boston Pilot by Henry indicated he was sailing to America in 1872.

Henry Hayde had a bank account at the New York Emigrant Savings Bank by 1854.  It recorded his birth in 1828 and as being the son of William and Cath Walsh from Ballingarry.

The parish records however show his birth in 1818 and that they were from the village of Boula in Ballingarry. The bank records stated that he arrived on the Leviathan on 7 March 1853, although these arrival records are not on

An 1860 entry in the bank records shows his address as being NY or NJ and his wife as being Catherine Duffy with Michael, a child. He enlisted in the army at Albany in 1849 aged 25 (b 1824) and discharged 1854. He again enlisted in 1861 (aged 29 – b 1832) and was discharged July 1864 only to enlist again in Sept 1864. He died 1880 and Catherine was awarded a pension in Ohio in 1890.

In 1860 Henry (now called Morris) and Catherine were in Chicago with Mary, Ida and Margaret as Hade. He was described as a policeman. In the 1870 census he was a grocer. In the 1870 to 1876 Toledo city, Ohio, directories he was described as a labourer at the gas works.

Catherine (b 1847) was in the 1900 census with William (b 1871), Mary (b 1875), Ellen (b 1877), Anne (b 1880) and Helen (b 1882). She was described as having arrived in 1866 and as having had 7 children with 4 living.

Margaret was in the Toledo city directories for 1877 and Catherine was in this directory in 1887. William Hayde was also in the 1887 directory at the same address as Catherine.

The 1900 Toledo directory recorded Catherine, Annie C (a seamstress), Mary E (also a seamstress), Nellie and William P as all living at the same address.

A James H Hade was in the Toledo directory in 1910 and could be a child of William.

I have found no descendants of any of these people.

The family tree (Tree # 2) can be seen at the following ancestry web site

Knockadabe and Lickfinn

Michael mar Mary Cahill who were in Knockadabe in 1830 and Lickfinn 11b in 1850. They had:

  • James Heade b 1832
  • John Heade b 1834
  • Elizabeth Heade b 1837
  • Mary Heade b 1840
  • Margaret Heade b 1843.

John and Margaret were possibly in Boston in 1864. {explain}

James and Elizabeth Wilson who were in Lickfinn in 1834 and 1850 (either 11c or 22b). They had:

  • William Heade b 1812, Lickfinn, Gorthahoe parish

James was a collier in 1812.

James and Biddy/Bridget Maher who were in Lickfinn in 1834 and 1850 (either 11c or 22b). They had:

  • Michael Heade b 1826, Ballingarry parish
  • Tom Heade b 1828, Gortnahoe parish
  • John Hayde b 1833, Mardyke, Killenaule parish. Mar Mary Murphy in Yorkshire 1866
  • James Hayde b 1835, Mardyke

The movement of this family around 3 different parishes implies a connection between the families in these parishes. This family is described further in the North Tipperary Posts page.

Derryvella and Gorteen

In the 1850s, there was a Matthew Hayde at Derryvella and Judith Hayde at Gorteen Lower.

These families may have descended from James Heade who was at Poynstown in 1666 or from other families in the area.  Descendants are:

Matthew Hayde at Derryvella

There was no sign in the Catholic parish records of Matthew.

James and Judith Conway from Gorteen Lower had:

  • Elizabeth Heade b 1827
  • John Hede b 1828
  • Margaret Head b 1830
  • Mary Heade b 1832
  • James Heade b 1834
  • Edmund Heade b 1837
  • Bridget Heade b 1841
  • Ellen Heade b 1843

Judith was at Gorteen Lower in 1850, which probably means that James died before then. She was there until the 1860s when they emigrated to America. They are covered in more detail in the Chicago Family Posts and are known as Tree # 14.

In the parish records for Gortnahoe and Ballingarry there were also a number of other Hayde/Heade families in the early 1800s.  The linkages are not entirely clear as the records only started in the early 1800s.

Extracts from the Ballingarry parish records, the civil records, tombstones, valuation records, census returns and other records are at Ballingarry Families.

The graph below reflects the population trends in Ballingarry. It is probably also reflective of trends in other parts of Ireland.





Nov 262017

Lawrence b 1812 and Ellen Doran

As was mentioned in the Ballingarry posts page, Lawrence was born in Ireland in 1812 and moved to Cardiff with his wife, Ellen Dorman/Doran/Dearan/Davern, in circa 1836. They had 5 sons and 3 daughters. The civil records had 1 birth recorded as Hade and 2 as Hayd. The rest were recorded as Hayde.

According to a relative, Lawrence was a groom on an estate in Ireland and Ellen was apparently the daughter of the house and that they eloped together. This probably explained why they ended up in Cardiff. Lord Bute was recruiting labourers at the time to help build the wharves in Cardiff. It appears that Lawrence continued to work with horses in Cardiff.

Lawrence is not a common name in the Hayde family. It was used in Tipperary in Wicklow in the late 1700s and early 1800s.

I have searched for Doran/Dorman/Dearan/Davern families in Ireland and have found a Doran family in Boula, Ballingarry that lived not far from a Lawrence Hayde in the 1850s. I believe that this is the most likely origin of Lawrence and Ellen.

In the 1800s they lived in central Cardiff in what is now Barrack Lane plus Mary Anne Street and John Street. These streets are shown on a map from this time period below:

Two sons had families in Wales. Descendants are mainly in Wales.

A grandson, John Lawrence, served as a stoker in the Royal Naval Reserve Force on HMS Coleen from 1914-1919. Another grandson, Thomas, was killed during WW1.

The early descendants of Lawrence and Ellen are:

  • Mary Ann Hayde b 1835, The 1841 census shows her as born Cardiff but in 1851 and 1861 her birth was recorded as Ireland.  There is no sign of her baptism in Ireland or Cardiff.
  • John Hayde b 1837, Cardiff. Mar Catherine Howells
    • Anne Hayde b 1864
    • Laurence Hayde b 1868. D 1868
    • Mary Catherine Hayde b 1870
    • John Lawrence Hayde b 1872. Mar Ellen Griffiths
      • John Hayde b 1902
      • William Lawrence Hayde b 1910
  • Michael Hayde b 1839, Cardiff. Mar Margaret Christopher
    • John Lawrence b 1876. D 1876
  • Thomas Hayde b 1842, Cardiff. Mar Catherine Coughlin
    • James Hayde b 1864. Mar Margaret Ruby then Ellen Heap
      • James Hayde b 1888
      • Nancy Hayde b 1905
      • Catherine Hayde
    • Ellen Hayde b 1867
    • Thomas Hayde b 1869
  • Ann Hannah Hayde b 1844, Cardiff
  • James Hayde b 1847, Cardiff. D 1888
  • Richard Hayde b 1849, Cardiff. D 1849
  • Ellen Hayde b 1850, Cardiff

A more modern map with Barrack Lane pin pointed is below:

Center map


Further details are available from the ancestry web site at

The UK census records containing more details on this family are:

England, Wales and Scotland Census Extracts 1841 – 1911 {add latest}

The Family Posts page for Ballingarry covers more detail around other descendants from Ballingarry.