Drangan and Fethard Area

 Tree # 08, Tree # 11  No Responses »
Mar 172025
 

As described in the Irish Research page, the tax records of 1666/7 Hearth showed a James Head at Rathdangin. The map below is from this time period and shows Rath-dragin south west of Fethard township. This I believe is the place referred to in the 1666/7 records.

Fethard is in the barony of Middlethird which in the 1659 census only showed 8 Headen and 5 O’Hea families.  They were either counted as part of the O’Hea numbers or ignored due to their low usage.

By 1766, an Edm Head was in the village of Killusty in the parish of Kiltinan, Fethard. He is probably a descendant of the family in Rathdrangin in 1666.

By the 1800s, descendants were in the following areas:

Cappa dromaCloranCloranKilnag ranaghDranganFethardGraigueKnockelly
1820MichaelEdmondJamesWilliam
1830MichaelEdmondJamesWilliam
1840MichaelMargaretMaryJohnWilliam
1850RichardJamesMichaelJohnThomas
1860RichardCatherineThomas

I have found a James Hayde in extracts of the 1821 and 1831 census for St Mary’s Clonmel. It records him as being in Bagwell’s Row in the Western Suburbs of Clonmel. He was an outdoor servant. He probably married (as Hade) in Ardfinnan parish in 1835. This parish is west of Clonmel. I am not sure how he links to the families above.

These places are highlighted in the maps below. The first one is the southern area and the second one is more northern and includes Drangan.

The Fethard, Drangan and Gambonsfield parish pages that follow (and can be accessed by clicking on the links) cover the details of these families. These show how Head, Heade, Hayde and Hade were variously used in the parish records.

The page on Drangan, Cloneen and Killusty parish records shows how complicated tracking families can be with the constant changes in parish boundaries.

It seems probable that these families originate from the James Head in 1666/7. What is unclear is the linkage (if any) to the Head/Heade/Hayde/Hade families elsewhere. DNA testing has as yet shown no linkage however this is only based on one sample. More DNA testing is required to prove/disprove a link.

Drangan Parish, Tipperary

 Tree # 11  6 Responses »
Feb 202025
 

Tree # 11

This family posts section focuses on the families around the adjoining parishes of Drangan and Mullinahone. Fethard is discussed in a different page.

There is no reference to any family members in these parishes in the 1666/7 and 1766 records.  In the Tithe records of the 1830s and the Griffiths records of the 1850s there were:

  • William Hayde at Knockelly in 1833 and then Thomas Hayde in 1850
  • Edmund Headd at Cloran in 1830 and Richard Hayde at Kilnagranagh and James Hade at Drangan in 1850

Note that Cloneen is often mentioned in documents and this is a civil parish that includes Kilnagranagh, Cappaghmore and Cloran.

Cloran and Kilnagranagh

The parish records showed a James at Cloran in 1833 at the same time as Edmond. He didn’t feature in the Tithe records so he must have been with Edmond on the 19 acres that Edmond farmed. They were probably brothers.

According to the parish records, John Head/Hayde was in Bannixtown in the 1830s and 1840s.  This village is nor far from Cloran and he may be another brother of Edmond and James. I have not found any trace of descendants of John.

I have constructed tree # 11 on the assumption that Michael, Edmund, William and John are sons of Edm from Killusty.  They may however be cousins rather than brothers but this information is not available.

The parish records also include the marriages of:

  • Anne Head of Killusty to Nicholas Power in 1816
  • Ellen Head of Bannixtown to Thos Hacker in 1818

These may well be sisters of Michael, Edmond, William and John.

Cloran and Cappadrummin are all close to Killusty in the Fethard parish as can be seen from the map below while Knockelly is a bit further North.

By the 1850s, a John Hayde was at Graigue, a townland further south from Killusty, around the mountain of Slievenamon, by Kilsheelan. He may be descended from the brothers above but this is unable to be determined from the records available. He is discussed further in the Gambonsfield Parish page.

Michael and Mary Gorman

They married 1813 in Drangan parish and both were recorded as from Killusty. Michael was actually called Edmd in the marriage records although all the baptisms referred to him as Michael. They were in Cappadroma in the 1828 Tithe records. They had the following children:

  • James Head b 1816. Mar Mary Doran 1843 as Hayde from Cloran. They were in Drangan in the 1850 Griffiths records .
    • James Hayd b 1843, Drangan.
    • Bridget Head b 1847, Drangan. Mar Vermont 1871
    • Robert Hayde b 1845, Corbally. Mar Mary Mahoney. Corbally is a village a mile North East of Drangan. In the 1880s they were living in Fethard.
      • Mary Hayde b 1866. Mar 1892
      • James Hayde b 1869. He joined the Militia in 1887 at Clonmel. He later served in the Royal Irish Rifles. Mar Mary Mitchell 1899. They emigrated to New York on the Oceanic in March 1900. He was a shoemaker/bootmaker. Mary died in childbirth circa 1913 and children put into an orphanage.
        • James Joseph Hayde b 1902. Mar Elizabeth Fellman 1925. Greenwich, Conn. D 1965
          • James Joseph Hayde b 1928, Conn.  Mar Gertrude Murphy
            • James Joseph Hayde b 1928, d 2012
        • Ann Hayde b 1904. Mar Carl Gunther
        • Mary Hayde b 1906. Joined convent and became Sister Mary John
        • Robert Joseph Hayde b 1909. Mar Louise Kennedy
          • Robert Joseph Hayde b 1939, d 1987
          • Michael Hayde
          • Mary Louise Hayde
          • Kathleen Hayde
      • Alice Hayd b 1870. Mar 1898
      • Catherine Hayde b 1872. Mar 1918
      • John Hayde b 1874. He joined the army Militia in 1891 at Clonmel. Mar Johanna Whelan, Clonmel 1907 and was still there in 1911.
        • Margaret Mary Hayde b 1909
      • Bridget Hayde b 1876 mar James Halley
      • Unknown female b 1880. Mar 1896
      • Ellen Hayde b 1882
  • Anne Head b 1817
  • Timothy Head 1820
  • Ellen Head b 1823
  • Mary Heade b 1826
  • Michael Hayde b 1829
  • Bridget Heade b 1832
  • Cath Hayde b 1835
  • Judy Hade b 1836

James, Anne, Timothy and Ellen were baptised in the Drangan parish while the later children were baptised in the Fethard parish records. In the 1830s the parish records described them as being from Cappadrummin and is where Michael Heade was recorded in the Tithe records as farming 2 acres in 1828.

Edmond and Margaret English

They had:

  • Mary Head b 1814
  • Judith Head b 1816
  • Bridget Headin b 1819
  • Thomas Head b 1822
  • John Head b 1824
  • Margaret Head b 1825
  • Ellen Hayde b 1828, Cloran

Edmond was in the Tithe records of 1830 as Headd. He was farming 19 acres at # 25 and the English family were at # 33.

Edmond died 1834 and left his estate to Margaret. Mary (nee Gorman) was the householder on this property in the 1840s but she had gone by 1849 and there is no family presence here in the 1850s.

James and Mary Fitzgerald 

They had:

  • Mary Head b 1815
  • Richard Head b 1818. Mar Mary Shea 1842. Kilnagranagh Griffiths 1 acre.
    • James Head b 1842, Kilnagranagh
    • Patrick Head, b 1844, Cloran. Mar Bridget Lee, Bennington, Vermont, USA, 1872. Patrick arrived in 1871 according to his Naturalisation records although there is no surviving immigration record, and he was Naturalised in 1873. There is no obvious 1880 census record for them. The 1900 American census showed Bridget as having 6 children with 3 living at that time.
      • Mary Hayde b 1873 Brooklyn
      • Edward Hayde b 1876 Albany
      • Margaret Hayde b 1878
    • Richard Head b 1846, Kilna. Mar Margaret Kenny. Richard died in 1927 and left his estate to his daughter Mary.
      • Mary Hade b 1887. Mary died in 1945 and left the estate to a non family member.
      • William Hade b 1889. He died in 1942 and he left his estate to a non family member.
    • Mary Head b 1849, Kilna
    • Margaret Head b 1852, Cappaghmore
    • Thomas Hayde b 1854, Cappa. Died of a disease of the lungs in Cashel Workhouse in 1878.
    • John Head b 1857, Cappa. John probably lived on a small plot at Kilnagranagh (12B) until he died in 1939.  There was no record of a marriage or children in the civil records.
    • Mary Hayde b 1860, Cappa
  • Anne Head b 1821
  • Bridget Head b 1824. Mar William Keevan 1846
  • Thomas Hayde b 1829. Mar Eliz O’Donnell
  • Patrick Hayde b 1832, Cloran. He probably mar Johanna Lyons in America.  Descendants are discussed in the Connecticut page.

James was not in the Tithe records and was probably with Edmond in Cloran.

William and Alice Delaney

They had:

  • Margaret Head b 1817
  • Bridget Head b 1818
  • Edmond Head b 1824

William was in the Tithe records of Knockelly as Hayde. They must have had more children as a Thomas Hayde was on this land in 1846 until 1882.

In the 1860s Thomas was before the courts on a number of petty crimes and a Judith Hayde was a witness on one occasion.

John and Ellen Carroll and then Mary Dermody

I have assumed that this is the same John and he remarried.  He was from Bannixtown and he had the following children:

  • Mary Head b 1832 (to Ellen Carroll)
  • Patrick Hayde b 1841 (to Mary Dermody)

The family tree # 11 can be found at https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/51523823/family

Knockelly

Connecticut, America Families (Tree # 11)

 Tree # 11  2 Responses »
Nov 192017
 

Patrick b 1832 and Johanna Lyons

According to descendants, Patrick Hayde was born circa 1830 in Co Tipperary and emigrated to America in the early 1850s.

The most likely baptism record is that of a Patrick Hayde in the parish of Fethard, Tipperary in 1832. He was the son of James and Mary Fitzgerald. They lived in the village of Cloran, to the south east of Fethard. This family is explained in more detail in the Drangan posts page.

By 1860 Patrick had married Johanna Lyons, they had started a family and were living in Salisbury, Connecticut.

The map below shows the city of Salisbury in the county of Litchfield in Connecticut State.

Patrick (b 1832) and Johanna (nee Lyons b 1835) were in the Salisbury, Connecticut 1860 census (as Haide) with their 4 children – John (b 1854), Lawrence (b 1855), Ellen (b 1856) and Mary (b 1856).  The children were all born in Conn. Patrick died in 1885 and Johanna in 1904.  The 1900 census recorded her as having arrived 1850. There are two arrival records in the name of Johanna Lyons around this time. These are:

  • At New York on 23 July1850 aged 20 (b 1830) on the Universe.
  • At Boston on 16 Jan 1850 aged 18 (b 1832)

Possible arrival dates in America for Patrick include:

  • As Patrick Head aged 23.  Arrived 1 July 1851 on Robert Kelly from Liverpool
  • Patt Head aged 30. Arrived 26 May 1851 on Harmony from Liverpool.  Place of origin stated as Tipperary.

The gravestones for Patrick stated that he was born Tipperary however the death certificate of his son Lawrence says Limerick.

John (b 1854) and Mary Rigler

John married Mary Rigler and they had 5 children John Francis (b 1883), Mary A (b 1886), Frank Joseph (b 1887), Johanna J (b 1889) and (Elizabeth M (b 1890).

Frank Joseph had a large family and descendants are in Connecticut and Canada. His descendants are:

  • Mary Agnes b 1914
  • Charles Joseph b 1916
    • Charles Joseph Jnr b 1938
    • Mary Lee
    • Roger W (in Ontario in 2007)
  • Francis Elizabeth b 1918
  • Katherine V b 1921
  • Gloria J b 1923
  • Helen R b 1925. Mar William Silva

Lawrence (b 1855)

Lawrence was single in 1920 and died in 1930.

Ellen (b 1856)

There is no record of Ellen surviving to adulthood.

Mary (b 1856) and Richard Deneen

Mary married Richard Deneen and had a large family.  This family has been well researched and documented.

Patrick died in 1885 and by 1900 Johanna was still living in Salisbury with the rest of the family (as Hayde).

Descendants are in Litchfield Connecticut.

I have shared information with descendants of Mary and Richard Deneen but have not traced any descendants of John.  Any further information would be welcome.

The family tree can be found at https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/51523823/family

History of Drangan, Cloneen and Killusty Catholic Records

 Tree # 08, Tree # 11  No Responses »
Mar 162025
 

Below is an extract of notes regarding these Catholic parishes and how their borders changed over time. It shows how difficult it can be to find and identify families in the various records when borders change so much.

Information for researching Baptisms and Marriages in Drangan, Cloneen and Killusty

  • All records before July 1826 deal with the Catholic Parish of Cloneen and Killusty.
  • Records from July 1826 onwards deal with the Catholic Parish of Drangan and Cloneen
  • Mullinahone and Drangan were joined before 1826, therefore, Drangan Baptism and Marriage Records before 1826 are in the Mullinahone Record Books.
  • In July1826, Drangan was joined with Cloneen. Killusty joined with Fethard. Drangan got part of Killusty Catholic Parish (in Civil Parish of Peppardstown) got all Curraheen townland plus half of Rathkenny townland and a small part of Knockelly townland.
  • Killusty Baptism and Marriage Records up to July 1826 are with Cloneen Records. No townlands were given in early book records.
  • In 1826, Drangan Catholic Parish received all Upper Crohane plus half Lower Crohane townlands plus part of Shangarry townland (now often called Wilford), plus nearly all Lismolin townland. All above are at the south side of the road from Lismolin Cross going west to the Two Trees, next to Barrett’s Cross then going south to Crohane Church and then to a small bridge at west or Killenaule side of Glasheen’s Cross. That road is the dividing line between Drangan and Ballingarry Catholic Parishes.
  • Before July 1826, the Baptism and Marriage Records for the above townlands and part townlands should be in the Ballingarry Record Books. There are names from Crohane, Graiguenageha and Moyne in the Killenaule Record Book.
  • On 10th November 1840, Drangan Catholic Parish received from Moyglass Catholic Parish, part of the Civil Parish of St. Johnstown, namely: all Lismoynan townland, plus part of St. Johnstown townland now known as Bawntafoora, plus a small part of Kilkennybeg townland. Therefore, Baptism and Marriage Records before 10th November 1840 of the above townlands should be in the Killenaule and Moyglass Record Books.

Killusty

  • To avoid expulsion under Penal Laws, local priests had to register in Nenagh as Parish Priests after an Act of Parliament 1703 which improved the situation for some priests. No other clergy were to be allowed, only the Parish Priest. Some priests went on horseback to Nenagh from this area to register. In 1704, Rev. Geoffrey Sall P.P. Clerihan and Killusty (1704-1713) was registered in Nenagh as P.P. of Coleman, Newchapel and Ballyclerihan (roughly modern Clerihan parish), and as P.P. of Kiltinan, Crompstown, Coolmundry, Peppardstown and Everardsgrange (roughly modern Killusty Parish) with parts of Fethard, Drangan and Cloneen. Killusty was in Kiltinan Parish but the church was in Killusty. This union of Clerihan and Killusty lasted until c.1773. Fr. Luke Shee was the last P.P. and was probably one of the Shee’s of Cloran, Cloneen.
    In 1773 Killusty was united with Cloneen until 3rd July 1826, since then it has been united with Fethard. There was a thatched church in Killusty in the 1700’s which was built chiefly at the expense of Mr Redmond Purcell. In Visitation 1847, it was mentioned that Killusty Church was built on Lord Lismore’s land. Killusty’s present church was opened in 1883. It was built by Fr. Thomas H. Kinane P.P. Fethard & Killusty.

Kiltinan Parish

  • Kiltinan Parish c.1200 is mentioned in the Register of Hospital of St. John the Baptist, Dublin, by E. St. J. Brooks. It states in The Preface that Philip de Worcester gave the church of Kiltinan to Oseney Abbey, Oxfordshire, England, c.1200.
  • An article written by Mark Hennessy states that a grant of 60 acres in the Manor of Kiltinan was made by David, son of Philip, to Hospital of St. John the Baptist, Dublin, c.1200. The Hospital of St. John the Baptist was a daughter house of Oseney Abbey.
    Kiltinan was also listed in Papal Taxation 1291 and 1302. The church in Kiltinan was in ruins in 1615.
  • Kiltinan Civil Parish Townslands: Ballynaclera, Boolagh, Cappadrummin, Clarebeg, Claremore, Grangebeg, Killavally, Killusty North, Killusty South, Kiltinan, Loughcapple, Moanbarron, Rathkenty, Tullow and Walshbog.