Drangan and Fethard Area

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Mar 172025
 

As described in the Irish Research page, the tax records of 1666/7 Hearth showed a James Head at Rathdangin. The map below is from this time period and shows Rath-dragin south west of Fethard township. This I believe is the place referred to in the 1666/7 records.

Fethard is in the barony of Middlethird which in the 1659 census only showed 8 Headen and 5 O’Hea families.  They were either counted as part of the O’Hea numbers or ignored due to their low usage.

By 1766, an Edm Head was in the village of Killusty in the parish of Kiltinan, Fethard. He is probably a descendant of the family in Rathdrangin in 1666.

By the 1800s, descendants were in the following areas:

Cappa dromaCloranCloranKilnag ranaghDranganFethardGraigueKnockelly
1820MichaelEdmondJamesWilliam
1830MichaelEdmondJamesWilliam
1840MichaelMargaretMaryJohnWilliam
1850RichardJamesMichaelJohnThomas
1860RichardCatherineThomas

I have found a James Hayde in extracts of the 1821 and 1831 census for St Mary’s Clonmel. It records him as being in Bagwell’s Row in the Western Suburbs of Clonmel. He was an outdoor servant. He probably married (as Hade) in Ardfinnan parish in 1835. This parish is west of Clonmel. I am not sure how he links to the families above.

These places are highlighted in the maps below. The first one is the southern area and the second one is more northern and includes Drangan.

The Fethard, Drangan and Gambonsfield parish pages that follow (and can be accessed by clicking on the links) cover the details of these families. These show how Head, Heade, Hayde and Hade were variously used in the parish records.

The page on Drangan, Cloneen and Killusty parish records shows how complicated tracking families can be with the constant changes in parish boundaries.

It seems probable that these families originate from the James Head in 1666/7. What is unclear is the linkage (if any) to the Head/Heade/Hayde/Hade families elsewhere. DNA testing has as yet shown no linkage however this is only based on one sample. More DNA testing is required to prove/disprove a link.

Fethard Parish, Tipperary

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Nov 302017
 

Tree # 8

As described in the Irish Research page, the tax records of 1666/7 Hearth showed a James Head at Rathdangin and by 1766, an Edm Head was in the village of Killusty in the parish of Kiltinan, Fethard. He is probably a descendant of the family in Rathdrangin in 1666.

Killusty is in the Fethard parish and is to the South East of Fethard as shown in the parish map above and the map below:

This family posts section focuses on the families in the parishes of Fethard and Killusty. It includes Boolagh and Cappadrummin. These two parishes are underlined in blue in the first map. The map at the top of the page includes places highlighted in yellow that are discussed in the Drangan page.

In the Tithe records of the 1828 there was:

  • Michael Heade at Cappadroma (by Kiltinan). This townland is also known as Cappadrummin. He farmed 3 acres owned by James Hacket.

By the time of the Griffiths in 1850, there was:

  • Michael Hade in Cashel St, Fethard.

In the early 1800s, when the Catholic parish records began, the following families were in the Fethard and Killusty parish area:

  • Patrick and Judith Daniel at Boolagh and Cappadrummin. Michael is clearly the son of the Patrick who was in the 1828 Tithe records. They should also have been in the Griffiths there is no sign of them although the valuation records show they were at Kiltinan until at least the 1860s.
  • Michael and Anne Sweeney at Cashel Street in Fethard. Which is clearly the Michael in the Griffiths record.
  • John and Ellen Began (place unknown). There is no sign of this family in the Tithe, Griffiths or subsequent valuation records.

Patrick b 1816 and Judith Daniel

Patrick mar as Hayde in 1840. He died Kiltinan in 1886 aged 70 (b 1816). They had:

  • Lawrence Hayde b 1840 Boolagh
  • Mary Hayde b 1842 Cappadrummin
  • Michael Hade b 1844
  • John Hade b 1847
  • Ellen Hade b 1849. Mar St John 1879
  • Timothy Hade b 1854
  • Bridget Hade b 1856
  • John Hayde b 1858
  • Catherine Hayde b 1858
  • Mary Haid b 1860

Patrick is most likely a descendant of the families who were in Killusty in 1766. Apart from the marriage of Ellen in 1879, and the death of Patrick in 1886, there is no further references to this family in the civil or parish records.

Michael and Anne Sweeney

They were at Cashel Road in Fethard in 1850 and in the parish records were the baptisms of:

  • Judith Hayde b 1835 d 1870
  • Mary Hade b 1837
  • William Hade b 1839
  • Patrick Hayde b 1841
  • Lawrence Hayde b 1843
  • Alice Hade b 1846

Michael was clearly the Michael Hade in the 1850 Griffiths. In the valuation records he was in Cashel Street until the 1860s and the Green.  A Thomas Hayde took over the property in the 1860s. In the 1890s, a daughter Judith was a neighbour.

He is presumably descended from families who were in Killusty who moved to the town.

John and Ellen Bergan.

They married as Heade in 1826 and had:

  • John Hayde b 1826. John probably joined the Royal Irish Constabulary (RIC) and settled in Naas, Kildare. Descendants are mainly in Dublin although some emigrated to America. This tree is covered further in the Naas page.

Without knowing where he lived it is hard to know from where he was descended.  I have assumed he is descended from the Killusty families.

Detailed research notes can be found at Drangan, Fethard and Clonmel area – Trees #8, 11 and 19

This family tree can be reviewed at:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/51862942/family

The DNA of a descendant does not match that of any other families so more testing is required to confirm linkages.

Naas, Kildare (Tree # 8)

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Feb 282025
 

John Hayde and Elizabeth Short

In 1849, John Hayde joined the Royal Irish Constabulary.  In the enlistment papers he was recorded as being born in 1830 in Tipperary South, he was a carpenter by trade and was 5 foot 8 1/8th inches tall. I have assumed that he was the son of John and Ellen Bergan b 1826 as there is no other baptism that could be relevant. The origins of John and Ellen are explained more in the Fethard page.

He served for 30 years and was pensioned in 1879.

He raised his family in Naas, Kildare and descendants ran various shops in Naas in the late 1800s and 1900s. The shops are famous in Naas. One current shop looks like:

John and Elizabeth had:

  • Patrick J Hayde b 1862, Baltinglass. Mar Catherine Shea 1869, Dublin
  • Mary Eleanor Hayde b 1866, Naas. Mar Timothy Berner 1892
  • Julie Anne Hayde b 1868, Naas
  • Edward Joseph Hayde b 1870, Naas. Mar Margaret Dermody 1896, Bray. Edward joined RIC then became a storekeeper.
    • John Michael Hayde b 1898, Wexford. John was a seaman and travelled extensively between the UK and America in the 1920s and 1930s. Mar Mary O’Brien 1926 in England. Descendants are in England
    • Edward Joseph Hayde b 1902. D 1916 Dublin
    • Matthew Thomas Hayde b 1906, Brentford, Essex, England. Emigrated to America in 1927. Mar Ellen McFarlane 1929 in Philidephia. He was a mechanic is 1930
    • Patrick Peter Hayde b 1911, Dublin. Mar Mary Byrne in 1937. Descendants are in Dublin
    • Michael Hayde b 1914, Dublin. Mar Catherine Kavanagh. Descendants are in Dublin
  • Bridget Hayde b 1871. D 1880
  • Kate Hayde b 1971. D 1873
  • Elizabeth M Hayde b 1872, Naas
  • John Francis Hayde b 1873, Naas. Mar Rebecca Baker 1896, Naas
    • Mary Hayde b 1897
    • Christopher Hayde b 1898
    • Rebecca Hayde b 1900, Naas
    • John Joseph Hayde b 1902, Naas. Mar Katherine Curran. Descendants are in Naas, Dublin and England
    • Elizabeth M Hayde b 1906, Naas
    • David Hayde b 1911. Mar Sheila Phillips 1945. Descendants are in Dublin
  • Ester Agnes Hayde b 1876

The DNA of a descendant does not match that of Tree # 1 or any other families so more testing is required to confirm linkages.

John and his family are shown in the following tree https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/51862942/family

History of Drangan, Cloneen and Killusty Catholic Records

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Mar 162025
 

Below is an extract of notes regarding these Catholic parishes and how their borders changed over time. It shows how difficult it can be to find and identify families in the various records when borders change so much.

Information for researching Baptisms and Marriages in Drangan, Cloneen and Killusty

  • All records before July 1826 deal with the Catholic Parish of Cloneen and Killusty.
  • Records from July 1826 onwards deal with the Catholic Parish of Drangan and Cloneen
  • Mullinahone and Drangan were joined before 1826, therefore, Drangan Baptism and Marriage Records before 1826 are in the Mullinahone Record Books.
  • In July1826, Drangan was joined with Cloneen. Killusty joined with Fethard. Drangan got part of Killusty Catholic Parish (in Civil Parish of Peppardstown) got all Curraheen townland plus half of Rathkenny townland and a small part of Knockelly townland.
  • Killusty Baptism and Marriage Records up to July 1826 are with Cloneen Records. No townlands were given in early book records.
  • In 1826, Drangan Catholic Parish received all Upper Crohane plus half Lower Crohane townlands plus part of Shangarry townland (now often called Wilford), plus nearly all Lismolin townland. All above are at the south side of the road from Lismolin Cross going west to the Two Trees, next to Barrett’s Cross then going south to Crohane Church and then to a small bridge at west or Killenaule side of Glasheen’s Cross. That road is the dividing line between Drangan and Ballingarry Catholic Parishes.
  • Before July 1826, the Baptism and Marriage Records for the above townlands and part townlands should be in the Ballingarry Record Books. There are names from Crohane, Graiguenageha and Moyne in the Killenaule Record Book.
  • On 10th November 1840, Drangan Catholic Parish received from Moyglass Catholic Parish, part of the Civil Parish of St. Johnstown, namely: all Lismoynan townland, plus part of St. Johnstown townland now known as Bawntafoora, plus a small part of Kilkennybeg townland. Therefore, Baptism and Marriage Records before 10th November 1840 of the above townlands should be in the Killenaule and Moyglass Record Books.

Killusty

  • To avoid expulsion under Penal Laws, local priests had to register in Nenagh as Parish Priests after an Act of Parliament 1703 which improved the situation for some priests. No other clergy were to be allowed, only the Parish Priest. Some priests went on horseback to Nenagh from this area to register. In 1704, Rev. Geoffrey Sall P.P. Clerihan and Killusty (1704-1713) was registered in Nenagh as P.P. of Coleman, Newchapel and Ballyclerihan (roughly modern Clerihan parish), and as P.P. of Kiltinan, Crompstown, Coolmundry, Peppardstown and Everardsgrange (roughly modern Killusty Parish) with parts of Fethard, Drangan and Cloneen. Killusty was in Kiltinan Parish but the church was in Killusty. This union of Clerihan and Killusty lasted until c.1773. Fr. Luke Shee was the last P.P. and was probably one of the Shee’s of Cloran, Cloneen.
    In 1773 Killusty was united with Cloneen until 3rd July 1826, since then it has been united with Fethard. There was a thatched church in Killusty in the 1700’s which was built chiefly at the expense of Mr Redmond Purcell. In Visitation 1847, it was mentioned that Killusty Church was built on Lord Lismore’s land. Killusty’s present church was opened in 1883. It was built by Fr. Thomas H. Kinane P.P. Fethard & Killusty.

Kiltinan Parish

  • Kiltinan Parish c.1200 is mentioned in the Register of Hospital of St. John the Baptist, Dublin, by E. St. J. Brooks. It states in The Preface that Philip de Worcester gave the church of Kiltinan to Oseney Abbey, Oxfordshire, England, c.1200.
  • An article written by Mark Hennessy states that a grant of 60 acres in the Manor of Kiltinan was made by David, son of Philip, to Hospital of St. John the Baptist, Dublin, c.1200. The Hospital of St. John the Baptist was a daughter house of Oseney Abbey.
    Kiltinan was also listed in Papal Taxation 1291 and 1302. The church in Kiltinan was in ruins in 1615.
  • Kiltinan Civil Parish Townslands: Ballynaclera, Boolagh, Cappadrummin, Clarebeg, Claremore, Grangebeg, Killavally, Killusty North, Killusty South, Kiltinan, Loughcapple, Moanbarron, Rathkenty, Tullow and Walshbog.