Kildare/Wicklow, Ireland Families

 Tree # 03, Tree # 16, Tree # 18  No Responses »
Oct 192022
 

The first census of Ireland in 1659 did not show any records with relevant surnames in the Kildare or Wicklow counties.

The same applies to the Hearth Money Records of the late 1600s and the Religious Census of 1766.

However, derivations of the name appear in the Ballymore Eustace parish records in the 1780s and the Dunlavin parish in 1815. Both these dates reflect when these parish records first started. These parishes bordered each other and were around Hollywood in Wicklow, a town just south of the bigger town of Ballymore Eustace in Kildare and north of Dunlavin in Wicklow.

In the parish records there are several families in the Ballymore Eustace parish and a smaller number in the Dunlavin parish.

The Public Record Office records of wills showed an Owen Heade from Snugborough (by Donard) who died intestate in 1769. (Owen is Eoghan in Irish or Eugenius in latin)

By the 1830s there were three families in the Skelp, Newtown area of Ballymore Eustace and three in the Blackhill, Friarhill, Donard area of Dunlavin. These were:

  • Two brothers, John (b abt 1800) and Mary Neil and Michael (b 1786) and Julia Murphy at Skelp/Scalp. They were sons of William (b abt 1860) and Anne. They shared 259 acres with several others.
  • Richard (b abt 1760) and Hanna on 44 acres at Newtown.
  • Pat (b abt 1795) and Eleanor Keoghe on 1 acre at Fryarhill.
  • John on 16 acres at Blackhill.
  • Denis (b 1821) on 1 acre at Donard. He was the son of James and Rose.

As can be seen from the map below, while these villages were in different parishes they were actually very close together on the borders of these two parishes.

This presence in the early records suggest that they may have been in the area in the early 1700s, and perhaps earlier although in numbers that did not warrant a mention in the census or Heath Money records.

Descendants in Dublin also seem to have originated from this area and DNA tests have supported this assumption.

I have developed three trees around descendants from this area:

  • Tree # 3. This is the tree that shows the early presence in this area and the descendants that can be traced from these families.
  • Tree # 16. This covers the following families that are assumed to originate from this area but cannot, in all cases, be proven from these records:
    • Christopher b in circa 1780. He was in Dublin in the early 1800s and married Margaret Byrne in 1806. They had a family in the early 1800s in Dublin.
    • William b circa 1815. He married Catherine Vins in Dunlavin parish in 1838 and they had a family in Dublin in the 1840s.
    • James b circa 1818. He married Bridget Flanagan and had a family in Dublin in the 1840s
    • Patrick b circa 1824. He married Ester Riley and had a family firstly in Ballymore Eustace in the 1840s/1850s and then in Dublin.
    • Michael b circa 1830. He married Margaret or Mary Maher and they had a family in Dublin in the 1850s.

These families have been grouped as they lived in similar areas of Dublin at a similar time period.

  • Tree # 18. This covers:
    • James Hayde and Patrick Hayde who were born in the early 1800s, had similar occupations and had families in Dublin the 1840s.

These have been grouped separately from Tree # 16 as they are clearly related and were in the same area of Dublin at the same time period and are also assumed to originate from the Kildare/Wicklow area.

The DNA of descendants from Trees # 3 and 18 are similar to that of Hayde families from Ballinure, Tipperary. There is therefore a proven link to Tipperary but the specific details are unknown.

The DNA for a descendant from Tree # 16, while different to those of Trees # and 18 is similar to the DNA from a Hayde family from Fethard, Tipperary.

The areas referred to in Tree # 3 are all around Dunlavin, Hollywood and Ballymore Eustace. These can be seen around Hollywood above.

These families and their descendants are:

Ballymore Eustace Parish

1) William b circa 1860 and Anne from Skelp/Scalp.

  • Lau Head b 1782, Skelp
  • Maria Heade b 1784
  • Michael Head b 1786, Skelp. D 1878 Baltinglass. Mar Julia Murphy (b 1794, d 1884) at Baltinglass in 1822. In Skelp in 1833 as Hayde and as Hade in 1854.
    • William Hayde b 1826. Joined RIC 1848 and emigrated to Australia 1856. Mar Maria Teresa Egan, Victoria
      • Annie Hade b 1864
      • Michael Joseph Hade b 1866
      • James Hade
      • Julia Hade
      • Nora Hade
      • William Hade
      • Elmas Hade
      • Jones Hade
      • Matthew Hade
    • Patt Hayd b 1828 (note that I don’t think this Patrick mar Mary Lynch as he was too young)
    • Michael Hade b 1826, d 1894. Mar Maria Kennedy 1875, Scalp.
      • Julia Hayde b 1876, Scalp
      • Mary Hayde b 1878
      • Michael Hade b 1882. Single in 1911. Died 1929 Dublin
      • Fannie Hade b 1887
    • Matthew Heade b 1831 (D 1894 aged 63 Baltinglass)
    • James Hayde who was in Dublin in 1870s/1880s (Clarendon St)
    • Ann Heade b 1832
  • Catherine Head b 1788, Skelp
  • Richard Head  1793, Skelp
  • James Head b 1797, Skelp
  • William Head b 1789, Skelp. Mar Lucy. In Scalp as Hade in 1854
    • James Heade b 1833
  • Anna Head b 1804
  • Philip b abt 1810. (Note this is an assumed connection to William)
    • Thomas b abt 1835. Mar Rose Donegan in Costeen in 1855 and Elizabeth Murphy in Newbridge in 1869.
      • Mary Anne Heade b 1856, Great Connell, Newbridge
      • Philip Heade b 1858
      • James Heade b 1861
      • Patrick Hayde b 1862. Mar Katheren Deegan 1890
        • Thomas John Hayde b 1895, Newbridge. Mar Edith Moore 1891 and then Kathleen Fenton
        • Rosanne Hayde b 1897. Mar Charles Jones
        • Patrick Hayde b 1900. Mar Sarah Craver 1931
        • Philip Hayde b 1903
        • Mary Bridget Hayde b 1907. Mar John Smyth
      • Kate Heade b 1870
      • Bridget Hayde b 1872
      • Thomas Hayde b 1873
      • Marcella Hayde b 1875
  • John ?. Mar Mary Nail. In Skelp in 1833 as Hayde. John D 1842 (Note this is also an assumed connection to William)

    • Anne Hayd b 1829
    • James b 1830
    • John Heade b 1834. Mar Sarah Murphy Dunlavin 1852. John was a shoemaker. Crehelp in 1854
      • John Hoyd b 1855, Crehelp
      • Thomas Hayde b 1856. Shoemaker. Single in 1911.
      • Nicholas Heade b 1857
      • Patrick Hayde b 1858. Single in 1911
      • Henry Haide b 1859
      • John Hayde b 1860. Single in 1911
      • James Haide b 1861, Crehelp
      • Bridget b 1864. D 1865
      • Rosanne Haide b 1866. Dublin 1911
      • Maria Hade b 1870
    • Patrick Heade b 1839

At the time of the Tithes in 1833, Michael and John Hayde were jointly farming 260 acres with John Murphy, Peter Farrell, Luke Butler, Pat Mowlem and James Kelly.

By the time of the Griffiths in 1854 the same 260 acres were being farmed by Michael and his brother William and John Murphy, Luke Butler, James Hegarty, Richard Kelly and Matthew Farrell. The land was owned by the Rev Lord J Beresford. The Beresford family arrived in Ireland with the armies of James 1 in the early 1600s and were granted large tracks of land (mainly around Waterford) by the king.

Descendants continued to farm this land into the 1900s. Michael who died in 1929 appears to be the last Hayde on this land.

John, who was in Crehelp in 1854, was on 4 acres owned by Richard Kelly. He died in 1883 and his son Thomas took over the property until he died in 1946. There is no sign of any descendants after this date and as the brothers were single (and in their 50s at the time of the 1911 census) it can be assumed that this branch of the family died out.

2) Richard and Hanna. In Newtown in 1833 as Heade

  • Bridget Heade b 1783
  • Anna Julia Head b 1785, Newtown
  • Margaret Head b 1787, Hollywood
  • Jacobus (James) Headde b 1790, Newtown. James probably died as Hade at Dragoonhill in 1866
  • Thomas Head b 1792, Newtown. In Newtown in 1854 as Hayde
    • No sign of descendants
  • Anna Head b 1795, Newtown

At the time of the Tithes Richard farmed 44 acres and by 1854 Thomas was farming 46 acres.  The land was also owned by the Rev Lord J Beresford. Thomas disappeared from the valuation records in the 1860s.

3) Eugene (Owen) and Rosa.

  • Jacobus (James) Head b 1786, Rathattin (a village close to Scalp) – known as Rabattin in the Tithes.
  • Patrick Head b 1789, Rathattin

There was no sign of this family in the 1830s Tithe or subsequent records.

Dunlavin Parish

4) Henry and Hannah/Judith.

  • Anne Hede b 1816, Milltown
  • William Heade b 1817, Blackhill
  • Michael Heade b 1821, Dunlavin

There was no sign of this family in the 1830s Tithe records. There was only the John Heade on 16 acres at Blackhill in 1825. However, he does not feature in any parish records. Perhaps he was a Henry John and they are therefore the same person.

A Nicholas Hade married Mary Dowling in this parish in 1837.  In Mullycagh Lower in 1854 as Hade. Their children were:

  • Rose Heade b 1840, Dunlavin
  • Jane Heade b 1842
  • Henry Heade b 1845
  • Thomas Hade b 1848
  • Mary Hade b 1851
  • Brigida Hayde b 1865, Mullcagh

I suspect Nicholas is another son of Henry and Hannah born circa 1817 as the dates and location fit and one of his sons’ was named Henry, which was an unusual family name at the time.

A Patrick Heade from Mullcagh married Catherine Cuff/Cook in Newbridge parish in 1839. He is probably another son of Henry and Hannah given the reference to Mullcagh. They were in Dowdestown Great as Hayde in 1851. Their children were:

  • James Hade b 1840
  • Patt Hade b 1842
  • Mary Hade b 1845
  • Ester Hade b 1847
  • John Hade b 1849
  • Margaret Hade b 1852
  • Catherine Hade b 1854, Dowdestown
  • Peter Hade b 1857, Dowdestown. Mar Mary Kinsella 1901

5) Patrick (a tailor) and Eleanor Keoghe. In Fryarhill in 1825 as Heade

  • Rose Heade b 1817
  • Richard Heade b 1820
  • Patrick Heade b 1822. Mar Mary Lynch Ballymore Eustace parish in 1840. He was a mason in 1881. They were in Commons (by Dowdestown) as Hayde in 1851. Their children were:
    • Ellen Hade b 1841
    • Bridget Hade b 1843
    • Philip Hade b 1845. Mar Elizabeth Kavanagh, Dublin 1874
    • Mary Hade b 1850
    • James b 1852. Mar Kate Holden, Dublin 1881
    • Judith Hade b 1855, Tipperkevin
    • Jacob Hade b 1857, Tipperkevin
  • Denis Heade b 1829. Served in the army (63rd Foot) from 1847 to 1868. He was a tailor.  Mar Elizabeth Phillipson in Cumberland, Carlisle in 1849 and (when widower) Bridget Butler/Cavanagh Dublin 1868.
    • Daughter b 1869
  • Sarah Heade b circa 1840
  • Thomas Heade b circa 1840. Mar Maria Cahill in Roundwood, Rathdrum 1862. Parents were from Crehelp. Thomas was a shoemaker. D 1911
    • Patrick Haid/Hayde b 1863. Mar Ellen. Emigrated to USA
    • Eleanor Haid 1864
    • Denis Hade/Haid b 1866. Mar Mary Heim. Moved to Liverpool. This family is described further in the Liverpool Posts page.
    • Thomas Hade b 1867. D 1880
    • Mary Christina Hayde b 1870. Emigrated to USA
    • Joanne Hade b 1871
    • Julia Heade b 1873. Emigrated to USA
    • Rosanna Hade b 1875. Emigrated to USA
    • Sarah Hade b 1877. D 1907
    • Anne Hade b 1880
    • Elizabeth Hade b 1882

At the time of the Tithes, Patrick was on a small 1 acre plot of land. It’s no surprise his descendants moved elsewhere.

6) James and Rose from Donard.

  • Denis Heade b 1821, Donard. In Donard 1833 and 1834. Donard is just south of Blackhill/Fryarhill. Mar Anne Hayden. Ann probably owned dairy in Mary St, Rathmines 1851-72.
    • Thomas Heade b circa 1840. Mar Anna McCreadie Dublin 1860.
      • Patrick Joseph Heade b 1861
      • John Heade b 1864
      • Helena Heade b 1866
      • Mary Anne Heade b 1868
      • Denis Joseph Heade b 1870
      • Anna Christine Heade b 1872
      • Thomas Heade b 1875
      • Margaret Heade b 1880
    • Edward Heade b circa 1840. Mar Elizabeth Quinn in Dublin. Moved to Manchester. An Edward Hayde b 1834 was in a Dublin gaol in 1854. He was from Donard.
      • John Heade b 1864
      • Elizabeth Ann Heade b 1875
    • Mary
  • William Hayde b 1822. William served in US army between 1849 and 1854. Mar Elizabeth Kelly circa 1845 then Mar Mary O’Connell/Toomey in Dublin in 1878 (as a widower). He was in Francis St, Dublin at the time of the 1851 census and ran a dairy in New Row West, Dublin 1859-1871.
    • Johannes b 1847
    • William b 1849
    • Catherine b 1856
    • Rosanna b 1860
    • William Hayde b 1877
    • Mary Teresa Hayde b 1879
    • Richard Hayde b 1882
    • Stephen Joseph Hayde b 1885. D 1886
  • Mary Heade b 1823, Donard
  • Richard Head b 1824, Ballymooney (village north of Donard towards Scalp)
  • James Hayd b 1828

The comprehensive summary of parish and civil records for these families can be found at Kildare and Wicklow Families

The tree for this branch of the family can be seen at https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/tree/51528839/family

Dublin, Ireland Families (Trees # 3, 16 and 18)

 Tree # 03, Tree # 16, Tree # 18  6 Responses »
Oct 192022
 

Dublin Residents in 1664

In the 1800s a list was made of residents from the Hearth Money Rolls, which later perished in the PRO fire.

The only slightly relevant entry (apart from Haydens) was Nicholas Hide, Lucan Towne (Townland), Lucan Parish, 2 hearths. There is however no record of any relevant descendants in the research undertaken in the 1800s onwards.

As described in the Irish Research Page, I have searched all the parish records together with directories, telephone books etc and constructed the trees described below. All the arrivals in the 1800s came from Kildare/Wicklow apart from a few from Tipperary and Carlow later in the century. This web page just focuses on the early arrivals. They can be summarised as:

  • Those that can be clearly traced to Kildare/Wicklow (Tree # 3)
  • Those that probably relate to Kildare/Wicklow and are probably related to Tree # 3 and settled in the south side of Dublin (Tree # 16)
  • Pat and James Hayde who were in Dublin in 1826, were probably from Kildare/Wicklow and who settled on the north side of Dublin (Tree # 18)
  • A family at Rathmines that is probably from Kildare/Wicklow
  • A family at Rathfarnham and Willbrook

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Tree # 3

This tree, as it relates to Dublin, reflects the ancestors who clearly originated in Kildare/Wicklow and can be linked together from the various records.

The other families in Dublin may also originate in Kildare/Wicklow but have their own tree references of Tree # 16 and # 18 as the connections are not proven.

The families in Dublin that are part of Tree # 3 are:

Patrick b 1842 mar Bridget Lynch Dunlavin, 1869

  • Mary Hayde b 1871, Dublin
  • Anne Hayde b 1873
  • Bridget Hayde b 1874
  • Patrick Hayde b 1875.

Patrick b 1822 mar Mary Lynch, Commons (by Dowdestown 1840)

  • Ellen Hade

Patrick and Eleanor (Mary) Keoghe, Dunlavin

  • Rose Heade b 1817, Kinseltown
  • Richard Heade b 1820, Fryarhill
  • Patrick Heade b 1822, Tubber. Mar Mary Lynch Ballymore Eustace in 1840
    • Ellen Heade b 1841
    • Bridget Hade b 1843
    • Phillip Hade b 1845. Mar Elizabeth Kavanagh, Dublin 1874
    • Mary Hade b 1850
    • James Hade b 1852. Mar Kate Holden, Dublin 1881
    • Judith Hade b 1855
    • Jacob Hade b 1857
  • Denis Heade b 1829. Joined 63rd Foot in 1847
  • Sarah Heade b 1840, Dunlavin
  • Thomas Hade b 1840. Mar Mary Cahill.

James and Rose from Donard

  • Denis Heade b 1821
    • Thomas Heade b circa 1840. Mar Anne McCredie, Dublin 1860
    • Edward Heade b circa 1840
  • William Hayde b 1822.

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Tree # 16

In the early 1800s, there were several families in the Dublin south parish records who all appeared to have some connection because of where there were living, some common names or other related factors. These families probably originated in the Kildare/Wicklow area and are probably related to the families in Tree # 3. These were:

Christopher (b 1768) who married Margaret Byrne in St Paul’s parish in 1806.

  • Bridget Heade b 1807
  • Matthew Hade b 1818. Mar Mary Murphy in 1844 in Australia
    • Margaret Hade b 1841, Australia
    • Christopher Hade b 1845. Mar Margaret Hughes 1872 and Elizabeth Connor later in life
    • Thomas Hade b 1847. D 1850
    • John Hade b 1851. Mar Mary Bergin
    • William Cornelius Hade b 1856. Mar Annie Larner
  • Margaret Hade b 1822

Christopher was in the North Dublin workhouse in 1840 and died there in 1844.

Matthew was convicted of being a pick pocket in Dublin in 1832 and was sentenced to 7 years in Australia.  He married there and subsequently settled in Australia  There are many Hade descendants in NSW, Australia that can be traced back to Matthew.

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Christopher is a very unusual name.  It only appears in the family in a small number of cases, as does Matthew.  Any users of these names therefore must have some connection. The Christopher b 1862 to Matthew and Catherine must show some linkage between the families.

Henry born circa 1795. He was in the 1851 Dublin census as well as the William O’Brien records of 1848. He was probably baptised as an adult in Rathmines in 1852.

Henry could have had a family in Dunlavin in the early 1800s. Henry does not feature very often in the family records and its use signifies a probably connection.

John Hade b circa 1810 mar Elizabeth Baxter 1837

  • James Hade b 1837, St Pauls, Dublin
  • Matthew Hayde b 1842. Mar Catherine Cassidy 1861
    • Christopher Hayde b 1862, St Pauls, Dublin
    • Matthew Hade b 1865
    • Martin E Hade b 1867
    • James Patrick Hade b 1868
    • Stephen Joseph Hade b 1870
  • Stephen Hade b 1845. A smith. Mar Mary Ann Conlon 1872
    • Bridgit Hade b 1873
    • Catherine Hayde b 1876. Mar 1894
    • Sarah Teresa Hade b 1880
    • John Hayde b 1884. a Locksmith. Mar Brigid Kelly, Dublin, 1909

William Hayde, a smith, b circa 1815 and Catherine Vins. In Donnybrook in 1849

  • Henry Hayde b 1842. He was a smith. Mar Mary Anne Price 1869, Haddington Road, Dublin
    • Catherine Ester Heade b 1870. Became a nun. D Chicago 1939
    • Patrick Robert Heade b 1872. Mar Bridget Coonan 1911
    • Robert Joseph Hayde b 1874. A Blacksmith
    • Mary Teresa Heade b 1880. Became a nun. D St Louis 1954
    • William Heade b 1880. A blacksmith. Mar Frances Ahern 1904
    • Henry Heade b 1882. Mar Bridgid Maguire, St Pauls, Dublin, 1918
    • Elizabeth Heade b 1884. Became a nun. D 1977 Liverpool
    • Michael Heade b 1886. Mar Julia Leahy, St Pauls, Dublin 1917
    • Thomas Patrick Heade b 1889. Served with Lancashire Fusilliers D 1916
  • William Hade b 1846
  • Thomas Hade b 1848. A coachman. Mar Bridget Cahill 1885

William and Catherine married in 1838 in the Dunlavin parish.

Descendants are in Dublin as Heade

James Hade b circa 1816 and Bridget Flanagan. In Roundtown, Rathfarnham 1849

  • John Heade b circa 1830. Mar Bridget
    • Michael Joseph Hade b 1856
  • Sarah Heade b circa 1835. Mar 1860
  • Anne Heade b 1840. Mar 1863
  • Thomas Heade b 1843. Mar Johanna Kearney or Kenny in St Mary’s Dublin, in 1882
    • Elizabeth Mary Haide b 1865
    • Bridget Heade b 1870
    • Sarah J Heade b 1872
    • Emily Heade b 1875
    • William Heade b 1876
    • Matthew Heade b 1877. Mar Catherine Kelly in 1910
  • James Hayde b 1848. Mar Margaret Toohey Dublin South, 1885
    • William Hayde b 1877. Mar Matilda Mahon 1899
    • Richard Hayde b 1882
    • Mary Teresa Hayde b 1879
    • Stephen Joseph Hayde b 1885
  • Michael Hayde b 1849

Descendants are in Dublin as Heade.

William (and/orThomas) b circa 1820 and Rose Moyles

  • William Bernard Hade b 1843. Mar Joanne Whittaker 1869 Ballybrack, Dublin
    • Rose Teresa Hade b 1871. D 1871
    • Thomas James Hade b 1872
    • William John Hade b 1874
    • Thomas Edward Haide b 1879
    • Sarah Teresa Hade b 1880
    • Francis Joseph Haide 1881

William and Joanna were in Manchester in 1881. Descendants settled in Manchester and have adopted Haide.

Patrick Hade b circa 1824 and Ester Riley from Ballymore Eustace

  • James Hade b 1847, Ballymore Eustace
  • Mary Heade b 1853, St Pauls, Dublin
  • John Hade b 1862, Haddington Road, Dublin
  • Eugene (Owen) Heade b 1844, Rathfarnham. Mar Mary Hennessy 1877. Emigrated to America in 1885 and settled in Pennsylvania as Heade.
    • James Patrick Heade b 1878. Mar Mary Overbeck.
    • John Joseph Heade b 1880
    • Owen Bernard Heade b 1883. Mar Ida Young
    • William Thomas Heade b 1886
    • Samuel Edward Heade b 1891

Patrick and Sarah had their first child in Ballymore Eustace in 1847. They second child Mary, was baptised in Ballymore Eustace in 1852 and St Pauls, Dublin in 1853.

Descendants are in Pennsylvania as Heade.

Michael Hade b circa 1830 and Margaret Maher. Michael was a tailor from Roundtown, South Dublin

  • Henry Hade b 1854
  • William Hade b 1856
  • Patrick Hade b 1859. Mar Sarah McDonald 1874, Donnybrook, South Dublin
    • Michael Heade b 1874. Mar Mary Ann Brady in 1913. Michael joined the army
    • Henry Hade b 1876
    • William Hayde b 1877. Mar Sarah Lee
    • Patrick Heade b 1880. Mar Margaret McCormick
    • Elizabeth Haide b 1883
    • Thomas Hayde b 1885
    • James Joseph Hayde b 1886
    • Sarah Hayde b 1888

Michael and…

Descendants are in Dublin as Heade.

The tree groups some of these people together but in reality the precise connections prior to the 1800s are a bit of a guess.  The tree is at https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/51972226/family

Tree # 18

In 1826 there was a major bank crisis in England which resulted in many textile factories in Dublin becoming uneconomic.  Many of these factories closed and the staff were unemployed.  Many of the newly unemployed men were used to repair roads in various parts of Dublin during the summer of 1826. James Hayde (a wool dyer with a family of 5) and Pat Hayde (a spinner with a family of 3) were in these records of labourers.

James was living at 5 Newmarket and Pat at Tenters (an area close to Newmarket). These were areas in Dublin City just south of the river. James probably joined the British army (46th Foot) and was stationed in Canada in 1822. He was born 1799 in St Michans parish and was a tailor. {check for his army records}.

There are various records in the St Catherines (Meath Street), St Michaels (Lower Exchange Street) and St Andrews (Westland Row) Catholic parishes in the late 1700s and early 1800s that could  relate to these families. However the linkages are not clear.

What is clear is that two descendants married and had families at St Michans and St Catherines parishes on the northside of the river in the 1850s. These were:

Pat, a painter, who married Ann Loran in 1848

  • James Haid b 1850. Mar Elizabeth Walsh in 1861. James was a painter. He died 1887
    • Elizabeth Ester (Lillie) Hayde b 1880
    • Patrick Joseph Hayde b 1883
    • Michael James Hayde b 1885
    • Anne Josephine Haide b 1881
  • Mary Haid b 1852. Mar 1872
  • Ann Heade b 1854. Mar 1884
  • Rosanna Hayde b 1857. Mar 1880
  • Bridget Heade b 1859
  • Jane Haid b 1861
  • Ester Haide b 1863. D 1915
  • Matthew Francis Heade b 1864. D 1867

James and Sarah Byrne

  • Patrick Hayde b 1847. Mar Ellen Quin or Hunt.  Patrick was a news vendor. He died 1910. They lived 34 Upper Tyrone St
  • Michael Hayde b 1849. Mar Elizabeth Gallagher or Fitzpatrick in 1874. He was a painter and they lived 20 Upper Tyrone St. He died 1891
    • Sarah Anne Hade b 1874
    • Maria Heade b 1875
    • Ellen Hade b 1877
    • Bridget Catherine Haide b 1880
    • Sarah Anne Haide b 1881
    • Mary Haide b 1882
    • Michael Hayde b 1890
  • Maria Haide b circa 1850
  • John Hayd b 1853
  • James Haide b 1855. Mar Ester Bremman in 1882
    • James Christopher Hayde b 1882. Mar Elizabeth Keogh. James was a news vendor living at 4 Murphys Cottages when he joined the Royal Dublin Fusiliers in 1903. He died 1916
      • Patrick Joseph Hade b 1907
      • James Haide b 1908. Mar Margaret Hoey 1935
      • Daniel Haid b 1910. D 1911
      • Luke Joseph Hayde b 1912. Mar Mary Deveraux in 1933 then Catherine Bolger 1949
      • Joseph Benedict Haide b 1915. Mar Mary Oates 1940
    • Michael Haide b 1884. D 1890
    • George Haid b 1885. D before 1911
    • Sarah A Hayde b 1886. D before 1911
    • Mary Ester Haide b 1889. D 1889
    • John Joseph Haide b 1890. D 1894
    • Joseph Patrick Haide b 1893
    • Patrick Haide b 1895. D 1910
  • Sarah Haid b 1861
  • Teresa Haid b 1863

Both these families lived in the same areas.  They were in Walshes Row in the 1850s, Penders Court and Dorset St in the 1860s then Murphy’s Cottages and Summerhill in the 1890s.

A descendant has undertaken a DNA test and the results show that his DNA is very similar to these from Tipperary (Trees # 1, 9, and 10) and also from Tree # 3 which has Kildare/Wicklow origins.

The assumption therefore is that these families moved from Kildare/Wicklow to Dublin in the late 1700s.

The family tree can be seen at https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/52117927/family

Rathmines Family

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John and Mary – 139 Francis St dairy 1846-50 then 16 Mill St in 1851 and O’Briens 1848).

  • William (b 1827) and Elizabeth Healy/Kelly – 139 Francis St in 1851 census and O’Briens.
    • Johannes (b 1847)
    • William (b 1849)
    • Catherine (b 1856)
    • Rosanna (b 1860)
  • Denis and Anne Hayden (Anne prob owned dairy in Mary St 1851-72) – Rathmines. Ann in Manchester 1871 with son Edward and his wife Elizabeth.
    • Thomas (b abt 1840) and Anne McCreat – 8 children
      • Patrick Joseph (b 1861) and Ellen
        • Thomas Joseph (b 1887)
      • John (b 1864), iron turner/carpenter, and Anne Evans and Anne O’Connor (from 1897) – 7 children by 1911
        • Thomas Joseph (b 1895) (by Anne Evans)
        • Edward Joseph (b 1900) (d 1916)
        • Patrick John (b 1902), a plumber
        • Annie Elizabeth (b 1903)
        • John Joseph (b 1906)
        • Joseph (b 1908)
        • Margaret (b 1908)
        • Denis (b 1912)
      • Helena Maria (b 1866) or Ellen (b 1866) (m Joseph Armstrong 1886)
      • Mary Anne (b 1868). Mar Charles Byrne 1895.
      • Denis Joseph (b 1870), fitter, and Elizabeth Kenny – 4 children by 1911
        • Catherine Mary (b 1904)
        • Thomas Joseph (b 1906)
        • Denis C (b 1907)
        • Elizabeth (1910)
        • Margaret (b 1914)
      • Anna Christine (b 1872)
      • Thomas (b 1875) – single in 1911
      • Margaret (b 1880)
    • Edward (b abt 1840), bricklayer, and Elizabeth Quinn then Anne Finnegan (d 1926). Manchester 1871 as Heade and 1891 as Hade.
      • John (b 1864)
      • Elizabeth Ann (b 1875)
    • Mary (M John Brown)

John and Catherine Cullen m 1827.  Connection ?

  • John, farmer.
    • Nicholas (b 1856) and Mary Toomey
      • John (b 1893)
      • Mary (b 1898)
      • Lillie (b 1900)

 Rathfarnham and Willbrook Family

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Henry and Mary from Kilkenny (m 1774 – assume recorded late)

  • Rose b 1767
  • Judith b 1768
  • Michael b 1769
  • Richard (prob b 1770) and Biddy (Bridget). In Kingston 1790s.  Richard was probably a barber who joined army in 1790.
  • Tom (b 1791)
  • Mary (b 1793)
  • Patrick (b 1794), a tailor, and Maria
    • Denis (b 1829) (served in 63rd Foot) and Elizabeth Phillipson then Bridget Butler/Cavanagh – Roundtown
      • Mary (b 1852 Limerick)
  • ? Pat (b abt 1826) and Cath
    • William (b 1846/49) (served 36th Foot) and Mary Aggett
  • ? James, labourer, and Catherine Broghite
    • Joseph (b 1844)
    • John (b 1850)
    • Mary Anne (b 1853)
    • Richard and Sarah Murray
      • James Joseph (b 1881)
      • Catherine (b 1882)
    • Henry (probably) (b 1810).  Joined 79th foot 1824 in Kilkenny, A tailor.
    • Catherine.  M 1828 Montreal.

Patrick and Catherine Carroll from St Marys Kilkenny (m 1777)

Others:

  • Nicholas and Mary (Dowling ? perhaps) fromWicklow
    • Rosanna (b 1847)
    • Bridget (b abt 1850)
    • Joanna (M 1864).  43 Francis St.
  • Patrick, (b 1825) a shoemaker, and Ellen from Longstown, Ballymore Eustace, (Wicklow)
    • Patrick (b abt 1845) carpenter, and Elizabeth Conway – Willbrook
  • Patrick (b 1870) and Jane Knowles (3 children by 1911) – Whitechurch 1911 census.
    • Kathleen (b 1902)
    • Patrick Joseph (b 1903)
      • Mary (b 1906)
      • Maria Helena/Ellen (b 1873)
      • Elizabeth (b 1874)
      • Rose Ann Mary (b 1878)
      • John Michael (b 1880)
      • Joseph (b 1883), a tailor, and Lizzie McNevin (3 children by 1911)
          • Elizabeth (b 1905)
          • Patrick J (b 1907).  (d bef 1911)
          • Jeremiah P (Gerald) (b 1908) and Kathleen Farrell
            • Michael G (b 1939)
            • Mary J (b 1942)
            • Carmel C (b 1944)
            • Gladys E (b 1947)
          • Margaret M (b 1912/17)
          • Veronica T (b 1921)
    • Sarah (M 1861).  98 Francis St

A much more detailed record and research notes of the various families from the parish, civil and other records can be seen at Dublin Families

Auckland, New Zealand Families (Tree # 18)

 Tree # 18  No Responses »
Dec 222017
 

In addition to the family descended from the Hayde family described in the New Zealand, India and England families (Tree # 1), there is another Hayde family in Auckland.

This family is descended from a James Hayde born in Dublin around 1800.

James was a wool dyer.  He and (probably) his brother Patrick Hayde (a spinner) both lived in the Tenters/Newmarket area of Dublin in the 1820s.

They both had children who all lived in and around Dublin City, just south of the river.  Some were painters in the 1850s, some were newsvendors and several joined the army.

Some descendants still live in Dublin while some have moved to London and one emigrated to Auckland in the 1950s.  A copy of this tree is at https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/52117927/family

A member of this tree has done a DNA test and the results are very similar to those for descendants of the trees that originated in Tipperary.  Thus the James and Patrick who were in Dublin in 1820s have Tipperary roots, but the connection is unknown.