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Kilballyherberry, Tipperary, Ireland Families – Tree # 1

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1766 – Philip and John

As explained in the Killenuale parish page, the tax records of 1666/7 recorded a James Head from Kilballyherberry, Ballysheehan.  He was probably one of the 10 Heade (and variant) families recorded in Ireland at the time.

The Irish Research page explains these families in more detail.

By the time of the religious census in 1766, the two families in this area were Philip and Maria Kearney and John and Maria Monaghan. These two couples both had large families that were baptised in the Killenaule parish records that started in 1742.  However I can only find the descendants of Philip and Maria in these parish records. They were recorded as Head in the census records and Head and Heade in the parish records.

By the time of the tithe taxes in the 1820s, the descendants in the area were Thomas Hayde and Cath Kivane and Patrick Hayde and Cath Kelly both farming at Killhill, Kilballyherberry.  They were both grandchildren of Philip and Maria.

Thomas married Cath Kivane circa 1803 and Patrick married Margaret Kirwan in 1811 and then Cath Kelly in 1813. They both had families at Killhill between 1810 and 1840.

In 1827, Thomas and Patrick  were both farming on land owned by The Estate of Oliver Latham Esq. Patrick had a plot of 3a 1r 0p and Thomas’s plot was 3a 3r 0p. They both defaulted on their tithes (taxes) in the 1830s and were not on this land in the 1850s. I suspect they were evicted in the late 1830s/early 1840s after they both defaulted on paying their tithes.

The parish records also show many other family members in this area in the early 1800s.  These are summarised at the end of this page. There is also a very close link between these families and those in Ballinure, Noan and Killenuale which are outlined on separate pages.

The 1850s map of the landholdings of Kilballyherberry parish is shown below:

Killhill is the hill, shown as 794ft (241m) high towards the middle right of the parish map highlighted in green. The area shown as reference 1 in this map (which included Killhill) was a 24 acre plot farmed by Thomas Hogan in the 1850s.  In the 1820s Thomas Hogan farmed 14 acres, with Patrick, Thomas and some other small holders as neighbours.  I suspect the Hogan family consolidated their holdings after Patrick and Thomas left their small plots. Outlined in blue is the area where I think Patrick and Thomas farmed.

Killhill is now a wind farm as can be seen from the photo below:

Killhill is shown in the photos below.  They were taken on a foggy day in November 2016 and probably reflect what life was like in the early 1800s on this hill.

The photo below is from Killhill at the point where I think Thomas and Patrick had their plots.

The photo below shows the view from Killhill down towards Ballinure.

The eldest son of Thomas and Cath’s was Patrick Hayde (b 1803). He married Margaret Farrell in Carlow in circa 1840 and immigrated to London in the late 1840s during the potato famine.  One of their sons (the only child to live long enough to have a family) joined the British army.  He went to India with the army where he married and had a large family.  Descendants live in England, India, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.  This is Tree # 1 and is described in more detail in the New Zealand and India posts page.

Other sons moved to Ballinure and descendents are in the Ballinure/Cashel area. These families, and other descendants from the Killhill families are also in Tree # 1 and are described in more detail in the Ballinure posts page.

Records in London in 1870 (relating to Patrick b 1803) indicate that Thomas and Cath had died by then.  Given that Patrick could not read or write and had left Ireland by the late 1840s, I suspect they may have died by the time Patrick and Margaret left Ireland. By the 1840s they would have been in their 60s, which is much longer than life expectancy at the time

The early members of these two families can be summarised as:

Philip and Maria Kearney

  • John Heade b 1745. Mar Maria Murray
    • John Heade b 1764. Mar Joanne Duggan
      • Joannes Head b 1790
      • Patrick Head b 1796. Mar Margaret Kirwan then Cath Kelly – Killballyherberry in 1827. 
        • Margaret Heade b 1814. Pos mar Patrick Raleigh and emigrated to Australia in 1870.
        • Mary Head b 1815. Pos mar William Dyer 1835. Son in Boston 1865.
        • Pat Hayde b 1819. Emigrated to America in circa 1847.  Lived Albany, NY State.
        • Margaret Hayde b 1824
        • John Heade b 1826. Emigrated to America circa 1850. Lived Albany, NY State.
        • Ellen Hayde b 1829
        • James Hayde b 1831. Emigrated to America circa 1853. Lived Albany, NY State.
        • Thomas Hayd b 1834
      • Bridget Head b 1799
    • Maria Heade 1779

Then mar Cath Kennedy

    • Catherine Head b 1771 (Possibly married Tower Hamlets, London 18 Nov 1804. D 1840)
    • Anastasia Heade b 1786
  • Michael Heade b 1747. Mar Cath Nagle
    • Philip Head b 1786, d 1788
    • Thomas Head b 1788. Mar Cath Kivane – Killballyherberry in 1827
      • Patrick Hayde b 1803, d 1873, London. Mar Margaret Farrell (d 1861, Wolverhampton). This family is covered in more detail in the New Zealand, India and England posts page.

        • Edward Hayde b 1848
        • Margaret Hayde b 1849, London, d 1869, London
        • Patrick Hayde b 1853
        • John Hayd b 1855, d 1861, London
        • Ellen Hayde b 1858, d 1888, London

This is my gggfather and all the DNA testing I have done is to link families back to this family.

      • Mary Heade b 1811
      • Cath Hayde b 1813
      • Edmond Head b 1815. Mar Mary Barry then Mary Bulfin later in life- # 9d, Noan (Piercetown) 1850

        • Catherine Hayde b 1844, Piercetown (Noan)
        • Thomas Hade b 1846, Piercetown. Married Margaret Russell 1868. Descendants in Ballinure.
          • Edmond Hayde b 1869, Ballinure. Mar Mary Dwyer 1879
          • Mary Hayde b 1871
          • Richard Hayde b 1874, D 1957. Mar Mary Conway 1904. # 18e Ballinure in 1901
            • Descendants in England
          • Michael Hayde b 1877. Mar Bridget Byrne 1926
            • Descendants in Ballinure and Clonmel, Cork and England
        • James Hade b 1849, Ballinure. Mar Alice Meacher 1864. Alice was in Grallagh (the parish adjoining Ballinure to the north) in 1901
        • Michael Hayde b 1853, Ballinure. D before 1901
        • Joanna Hayde b 1854, Ballynaglaragh (Noan). Possibly emigrated 7 Apr 1875
        • Martin Hayde b 1855, Piercetown
        • Mary Hayde b 1869, St Marys, Clonmel.
        • Margaret Hayde b 1871, Garraun
      • Nelly/Ellen Head b 1818
      • Peg (Margaret) Head b 1821
      • Tom Heade b 1824. Prob mar Mary Connors
        • Honnaria Hayde b 1841, Killhill. Married John Ware in New Brunswick in 1870.
        • John Hayde b 1844, Ballynaglaragh (Noan). Married Margaret Long in New Brunswick in 1870.
        • Michael Hayde b 1847, Curragh (probably Carrow, a townland north of Dually). Prob arrived NY 1873

        Thomas and Mary left Killhill and moved to Noan in the 1840s.  They clearly emigrated shortly thereafter as the children married in America in the 1870s. The DNA of a descendant matches those of descendants of Patrick and Margaret Farrell.

      • James Hayde b 1826 
      • Michael Heade b 1826

Pos married Ellen Wilson 1792

    • John Head b 1793
    • Ellen Head 1794
  • Helena b 1749. Mar Tom Dwyer 1771 from St John’s parish
  • Honoria Heade b 1752
  • Maria Heade b 1753
  • Catherine Heade b 1756
  • James Head b 1759. Mar Eliz Wilson 1795 (pos ex wife of Michael who maybe died 1792)
      • John Head b 1796. Mar Mary Maher
      • Michael Head b 1798
      • Michael Head b 1800
  • Allina Head b 1762. Prob mar Edmund Looby 1789.
  • Eliza Heade b 1766

Further information is provided on the families that settled in Albany in the Albany posts page.

John and Maria Monaghan

  • Ellen Heade b 1749
  • Margaret Heade b 1751
  • Richard Heade b 1752
  • Catherine Heade b 1753
  • Thomas Heade b 1756
  • Margaret Head b 1759

Descendants of the above are difficult to track from the parish records.

Other Hayde Families from this area

There are also other families in the parish records of the time that are related but the links are unknown due to the lack of paper records. These are:

Patrick and Judith Bradley

  • Martin Hayd b 1835, Killhill
  • Harry Hayd b 1837, Killhill
  • Thomas Hayd b 1839, Killenaule
  • Catherine Head b 1841, Ballynaglaragh
  • Patrick Hayde b 1844, St Peter and St Paul, Clonmel

Patrick is clearly descended from either Philip and Maria or John and Maria but the records are not clear on how. What the dates show however is that they had moved from Killhill sometime in the late 1830s. Ballinaglaragh is a sub townland of Noan, which is the area that the family spread to.  The last birth in 1844 reflects their movement further south. There is no trace of this family after these dates and I suspect they were either famine casualties or emigrated.

James b abt 1790 and Mary Meagher/Maher – Ballinree in 1827

  • Tom Head b 1817, Leigh, Tipperary North  (maybe should be in Tipp Nth)
  • William Hayde b 1818, Ballinree
  • Nancy Heade b 1821, Ballinree
  • Mary Head b 1824, Ballinree
  • Jas or John Hayd b 1833, Ballinree

Ballinree is a townland to the north west of Dually bordering Ballysheehan.

How some of the early families in the area are all connected is not obvious from the paper records.  DNA testing however has shown that the families from Kilballyherberry, Ballinure and Noan have a common ancestor.

The detailed research notes for this can be seen at Ballinure and Killenaule area – Trees 1 ,6 ,8, 9 and 10

A map of the area showing Kill Hill and Ballinure marked is as follows:

Co. Tipperary, Ireland

Kilballyherberry, Co. Tipperary, Ireland

New Zealand, India and England Families (Tree # 1)

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Patrick Hayde b 1803 and Margaret Farrell

As described in the Killballyherberry posts page, this family originates from that area.

It starts with a Patrick Hayde, a descendant of Philip and Maria Kearney, who were farming at Killballyherberry in the 1600s.

Patrick was the eldest son of Thomas and Cath. He married Margaret Farrell in Carlow around 1840 and they emigrated to London shortly afterwards. The Carlow marriage reference came from the 1870 extract shown below.  I have not found this in any parish record.

They had 4 children in the Westminster area, most of whom died in London at an early age.

One son (Edward Harry b 1848) survived and joined the British army (67th Foot) at Taunton, Somerset (where he was living) in 1867. He was a violin player and his army career involved him playing in the band and being the bandmaster.

I could not find this family in the 1861 UK census.  Part of the problem I have with finding this family is due to their itinerant nature.  Patrick (a musician), and Margaret Farrell, had Edward (my great grandfather) in Westminster in 1848 (parish or street unknown), Margaret in St Mary’s Westminster (cottage at back of 48 Marsham St) in 1849, Patrick in St John’s Westminster (56 Orchard St by Westminster Cathedral) in 1853, John in St Luke’s (6 Edmonds Place, off Aldersgate St near to what is now the Barbican) in 1855 and Ellen in Marylebone (16 George St) in 1858.  Patrick died {in Marylebone in 1854}, John in the Earls Court Workhouse in 1861, Margaret (a musician) in the Workhouse in Greenwich in 1869 and Ellen (a laundress in Deptford) in Greenwich in 1888.

In between, Margaret (nee Farrell) died in Wolverhampton (Back Lane, part of the Irish slum known as Caribee Island at the time) in 1861. Her death was in the civil records as Aide.

A map of this area in the 1870s is shown below:

Back Lane is now a main road leading out of the Wolverhampton railway station seen on the right.

I have found Patrick (the elder) in the 1871 London census.  He was listed as Patrick Hyde, widower, born 1803 in County Tipperary, Ireland, residing in the Islington Workhouse.  I have found his movements from 1869 – 1873 (when he died) in the Greenwich, Islington and Croydon areas. I found Patrick in the Islington Workhouse records in 1870 as a pauper. The civil records show Patrick Hayde died in 1873 in Croydon Workhouse aged 70 (ie born 1803).

The first entry of Patrick Hayde into the Islington parish records in October 1870 confirmed his age, place of birth and parents.  It also described him as being a bag pipe player and as also having a dislocated hip which probably entitled him to treatment in the parish. This entry is shown below:

The area in Westminster that they were recorded in when Patrick was baptised in 1853 adjoined a notorious slum called Devil’s Acre.  Cardinal Wiseman described the area in 1850 as:

Close under the Abbey of Westminster there lie concealed labyrinths of lanes and courts, and alleys and slums, nests of ignorance, vice, depravity and crime as well as of squalor, wretchedness and disease.  The population, nominally Catholic, haunts of filth.

The Devil’s Acre with the Palace of Westminster in the background, in an 1872 illustration by Gustave Doré. The illustration shows the Devil’s Acre some years into the slum clearance, with the courtyard of small low-lying houses surrounded by multi-occupancy houses fronting onto Old Pye Street.

Above is a map of the Westminster area of London in 1868. It shows Orchard St, off Dean Street, where the family lived in 1849.

Above is a map of the City of London about the same time period. It shows Edmonds Place off Aldersgate Street at the top centre.

Edward and Martha

Edward enlisted for a 12 year term with the 67th Foot at Taunton, where he was living, on 9 March 1867.[1]  He received a bounty of one pound to sign up and his trade was listed as a violin player.  He was 19 years old, 5ft 91/4 tall, sallow complexion, grey eyes and dark brown hair. He was illiterate at the time and the document recorded an X as his mark of signature.  He joined the unit in Cork, Ireland.  The units’ movements were as follows:

Curragh Camp (Dublin)                                   Jan 1868

Portsmouth                                                      June 1868

Aldershot                                                          August 1869

Dover                                                                February 1871

Shorncliffe                                                       September 1871

Departed for Burma                                      31 October 1872

East Indies (India)                                           4 March 1876 to 11 April 1888[2]

In 1881 the 67th foot became 2nd Battalion Hampshire Regiment.  In 1887 Edward transferred to the 1st Battalion, probably to enable him to stay in India.

Edward married Catherine Gilaghan while at Shorncliffe Camp, Kent on 12 March 1872.[3]  Catherine died on 7 July 1873[4] (aged 25) and Edward remarried a Martha Rebecca Featherstone on 2 May 1876 in India.

Edward re-engaged for a 21 year total service period in December 1874.  He received several good conduct awards and was promoted Lance Corporal in 1882, Corporal in 1884 and Bandmaster Sergeant in 1885.  He fought in the Afghanistan campaigns of 1878 and 1880. The medals he was awarded would have looked like:

He passed his Third Class education certificate in Sept 1883 by which time he could sign his own name and ensure that the army records also had his name spelt correctly.  What I am not sure about is how he knew what the right spelling was when based in India, miles from other family.

The Royal Hampshire Regimental Museum in Winchester has copies of the monthly regimental magazine called “Our Chronicle”.  It was started in 1872 when the regiment arrived in Burma and recorded the social, administrative and military activities of the regiment.  Edward featured in it several times in connection with his violin performances.  One article said “The violin solos of Private Hayde well sustained his fairly earned reputation.  Hayde was vociferously encored”.

Patrick was recorded in the Chelsea Pensioners lists of 22 May 1888 as being eligible for a pension after 21 years service.

A son of Edward, Frederick Joseph, enlisted in the Royal Artillery in Madras on 21 September 1897.  He was 14 years 11 months old, 4ft 11in tall, fair complexion, fair hair, and grey eyes.  He was discharged as a Corporal on 22 March 1910 having served 12 years.  During this time he spent 3 years in England (1904 to 1907) with the rest of the service done in India.

Two of Edward’s other sons (he had 8 sons and I daughter) also served in the British army.  These were Edward Samuel born 1879 (enlisted 1893 and served 21 years), and Patrick George born 1888.

The youngest son, Ernest Victor, born 1897, served in the Indian army during WW2.

Their family tree can be summarised as:

  • Ellen Rebecca Hayde b 1877, Madras. D 1878.
  • Edward Samuel Hayde b 1879, Bangalore. Mar Constance Conroy
    • Frederick J Hayde b 1908. Mar Grace Cook
  • Frederick Joseph Hayde b 1882, Cannamore. Mar Evelyn Conroy
    • Dagma M Hayde b 1910
    • Comfort C M Hayde b 1912
  • Harry James Hayde b 1884, Bangalore. D 1900
  • Albert Featherstone Hayde b 1886, Secunderabad. D 1902
  • Patrick George Hayde b 1888, Secunderabad
    • Adelaide Hayde
    • George Hayde
    • Dennis Hayde
  • Walter Driscoll Hayde b 1890, Secunderabad. Mar Clarice Lear
  • Cyril John Hayde b 1892, Deesa. Mar Agnes Lear
  • Ernest Victor Hayde b 1897, Poona
  • Millicent Anne Hayde b 1903, Bangalore. Mar Gerald McCosh

Note how two brothers married two sisters twice!

Edward was a volunteer bandmaster when Walker was born in 1890.

A photo of Edward in the early 1900s is

A family group photo:

Originally it was thought that this photo was probably taken in around 1900, shortly before Harry died. However, that was before discovering the birth of Millicent born in 1903.  We now believe that this was taken in more like 1905 and included Millicent (in the dress) and not Harry who died in 1900.

The family tree can be seen in detail at https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/tree/51646201/family

Edward died in circa 1905 and Martha married a Frank Cook. Millicent adopted the surname Hayde-Cook.  She married in India and left India for the UK in 1948.

Most of the surviving members of the family left India in the late 1940s and early 1950s.  Some went back to the UK while others went to New Zealand.

Footnotes:

[1] The enlistment form recorded him as Edward Hayd

[2] The service records have him as Hayd to 1872 and then Hayde thereafter although at times the e was dropped for a while and then returned.

[3] This marriage was recorded in the Civil records under the name Hayd

[4] Recorded in “Our Chronicle”

 

Albany, New York State, America Families (Tree # 1)

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Patrick b 1796 and Cath Kelly

As described in the Kilballyherberry posts page, Pat Hayde and Cath Kelly farmed a 3 acre plot in Killhill, Tipperary in the early 1800s.  They had 8 children that can be traced in the baptism records of the Boherlahan and Dually parish.

Pat is descended from Philip who was farming this land in 1766 with his wife Maria Kearney. They had 9 children and one was the grandfather of Pat.

In the 1830s Patrick defaulted on paying his tithes (taxes) and he appears to have been evicted from this farm.

Of the 8 children, 4 appear to have emigrated to America in the 1850s – Mary (b 1815), Patrick (b 1819), John (b 1826) and James (b 1831). There is no trace of descendants of any of other children in Ireland so they presumably died young.

Two of the sons, John (b 1826) and James (b 1831) were referenced in an advert in the Boston Pilot in 1865 where a nephew (Martin Dwyer) was looking to find them and their last known address was in Albany, NY. Mary (b 1815), married William Dyer in 1835 and it was probably his son Martin who was looking for John and James in 1865.

In 1850, Patrick was in Albany, NY. In 1860, he had married and had been joined by James and John who had also both married. In 1855, Patrick was noted as having been in Albany for 7 years. This probably means he arrived from Cork on the Brig D.B on 24 May 1847. John probably arrived on the Niagara on 12 Sept 1850 and James on Compromise on 7 Sept 1853. Their surnames were variously spelt as Hayde, Hade, Hayd and Head in these records.

I am not sure why they settled in Albany. Albany was a large city and a hub for transportation in the mid 1900s. It was (and still is) the capital city of New York State. There is however no obvious reason why Patrick settled in Albany when he arrived in 1847. He was a labourer in 1850 and a servant in 1855. He didn’t marry until circa 1857 so it couldn’t have been any in-law influence.

In the 1830 and 1840 censuses, Albany was ranked as the 9th largest urban space in America and perhaps that attracted immigrants. It is shown on the map below:

The above map shows the location of Albany City in Albany County and the State of New York.

Patrick (b 1819, prob d 1902) and Mary Cassidy

Patrick (b 1819) and Mary had Ellen (b 1855), Mary (b 1860), Margaret (b 1862), James (b 1864), Katie (b 1866 d 1891), Annie (b 1867 d 1883), Martha (b 1869 d bef 1880), Patrick (b 1876 d 1890) and John (b 1879 d 1883).

Patrick was probably naturalized 1868. He was also in the 1863 Civil War Draft Registration as Head. They were in Park Ave, Albany City as Haed in 1880.

The Albany City Directories show:

  • Patrick Hayde, gas foreman, Park Ave 1874, 1875

They were in the 1880 census of Albany as Haed.

Patrick d 1888, Kathy d 1891 and Mary d 1889 were buried Menands Cemetery, Albany.

No-one from this family was in Albany in 1900 and there does not seem to be any trace of them in other counties or states.

John (b 1826) and Mary

John (b 1826) and Mary (b 1830) had Margaret (b 1855), Hannah (b 1858), John (b 1858 d 1858) and James J (1862) and can be traced to the 1870 (as Hade), 1875 (as Hayde) and 1880 (as Hade) census records.

In 1864 the Albany Directory noted that they were living at 67 Schuyter St, the same address they were at in the 1880 census.

Johon prob died 1891 and was buried Menands Cemetery, Albany.

The 1892 census showed Mary aged 50 (b 1842), Margaret 20 (b 1872), Anna 18 (1874) and James 22 (b 1870).

In 1900, Mary was living at Mulberry St, Albany and was recorded as having had 4 children with 3 still living. Mary was with Margaret (b 1874), Hannah (b 1876) and James (b 1877).  They were noted as being her children however the dates of birth are markedly different.

By 1910 the children were still living together in Mulberry St and were all single. In 1920, just Margaret (b 1878) and Anna (b 1882) were living at 53 Mulberry St.  The ages seem to get progressively distorted.

The Albany City Directory records show:

  • John at 53 Mulberry in 1885
  • John at 53 Mulberry with James J in 1888 and 1889
  • John died 30 Apr 1891
  • Mary Hayde as a widow of John in 1891, 1892, 1896 and 1903 at 53 Mulberry St
  • James J Hayde as a boatman then gardener in 1891, 1892, 1895, 1896, 1903, 1905, 1909, 1911 also at Mulberry St
  • James J Hayde as having died 19 Nov 1914
  • Margaret M E at 53 Mulberry in 1915, 1923, 1928
  • Hannah/Ida at 53 Mulberry in 1923, 1928

Then also (with connection uncertain):

  • John and Mary Hayde at 27 Central Ave in the 1950s
  • John J Hayde as having died 16 Dec 1953
  • Mary widow of John 27 Central Ave 1955, 1957

A John Hayde, b 1868 Albany, traveled from the Bahamas to New York in 1939. He was single. He is possibly the John who died in 1953.

James (b 1831) and Mary

James (b 1831) and Mary had Margaret (b 1857), Mary (b 1855), John (1862), Patrick (b 1864 d 1864). The 1870 census however did not include Margaret and by 1875 James was also missing from the census.

The 1863 Civil War Draft Registration included James Hade from Cherry St, Albany. The 1864 and 1869 Albany Directory had them staying at Cherry, near Green. James was naturalized on 7 Aug 1868.

The Albany City Directory records show:

  • James Hayde 49 Bassett 1861
  • James Hayde, carman, 71 Cherry in 1874 (note the 1875 census did not include James)
  • Mrs James Hayde 71 Cherry in 1875, 120 Arch in 1876 and 21 Broad in 1879
  • John Hayde, labourer, 269 Green in 1874, 1875

There is no trace of them in Albany in 1880 or later census records. There is also no obvious signs of them in another county or state.

 

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Ballinure and Noan, Tipperary, Ireland

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As outlined in the Irish Research page and the Killenaule parish page, there were two relevant families in the Ballinure and Noan area in 1659. From the 1665/6/7 Heath records these can be seen as:

  • John Hyde/Haide at Ballinure (a townland in the civil parishes of Graystown and Ballysheehan and the Catholic parishes of Killenuale and Boherlahan and Dualla)
  • Thomas Hade at Graystown (Noan is a townland in the civil parish of Graystown and the Catholic parish of Killenaule)

No records from the 1766 Religious census exist for this area so the Catholic parish records and the Tithe taxes in 1830 need to be relied upon to pick up the thread of ancestors.

The following families were in the Tithe records of 1830:

  • John Heade. John was at Noan. He married Mary Maher.
  • Edmund Heade. Edmund was at Noan. He married Ellen Carroll and they had a family in the early 1800s.
  • James Heade. James was at Noan. He married Catherine Carty and they had a family in the early 1800s. One son was at Carrow in 1850 and another at # 13 or 15 Noan in 1850. Descendants are in Noan, Ballinure and America as outlined below.

Ballinure and Noan were adjoining villages as can be seen from the map below.

These families were:

John and Mary Maher – Noan 1830

Edmond and Ellen Carroll – Noan in 1830

  • Ellen Head b 1815, Ballinure
  • Mary Hayde b 1822, Ballinure

James and Catherine Carty – Noan in 1830 – Tree # 1

  • Ellen Hade b 1814. Mar James Fair in 1843 and emigrated 1848 to America. Settled in Wisconsin
  • James Hayde b 1818, Ballinure. Mar Cath Quinlan. Carrow in 1850 as Hayde. In 1850 they were in a house on the main road between Ballinure and Dually. They moved from this house in the 1860s and were in Thurles in 1880s-1908.
    • Mary Hayd b 1846, Carrow (a townland north of Dually)
    • James Hayd b 1849, Carrow
    • Denis Hayde b 1851, Carrow
    • Thomas Head b 1854, Garraun
  • Edmond b 1812. Mar Margaret Byrne – Noan (#13 or 15) as Hayde in 1850
    • Patrick Hayde b 1839, Ballinure
    • Ellen Hayde b 1842, Ballinure
    • Margaret Hayde b 1844, Piercetown (Noan) – Mar Boston in 1873
    • Edmond Hayde b 1847, Piercetown. Mar Mary Shea.
      • Had a family in Ballinure. Some emigrated to Boston in early 1900s.
    • Richard Hayde b 1852. Mar Margaret Ellie, Boston 1882. They did not appear to have any children.
    • Kate Hayde b 1853, Piercetown
    • Alice Hayde b 1855, Ballinure – Died Boston 1887
    • Mary Hayde b 1857, Ballinure – Emigrated to Boston
    • Elizabeth b circa 1858 (dau of Edward from Ballinure. Mar Patrick Connors 1878)

By the time of the Griffiths records in 1850, there was also the following family in the area:

Patrick Hayde married Margaret Loughlin at Ballinure in 1846 – 12a Ballinure in 1850.

This is in the subtownland of Piercetown

  • Mary Heade b 1847, Ballinure. Sponsor were John Heade and Ellen Heade.

They also had a Patrick….

There are also other Hayde/Heade and Hade families in the early parish records as can be seen from the detailed research notes made from the parish records, the civil records, valuation records, directories, graveyards and the 1901 and 1911 census for this area in Ballinure and Killenaule area – Trees 1 ,6 ,8, 9 and 10

These include:

Patrick and Joanna Power – Tree # 6

Patrick joined the army at Kilkenny in 1842.  One of his children were baptised in Killenaule parish which links him to the family.  This family is described in more detail in the Bury Posts page.

The DNA of a descendant is also very similar to descendants of Trees # 1, # 9 and # 10 which also links him to this area.

Edmond and Catherine Liddy

Edmond died 1865 aged 40. It is not entirely clear from the parish records who his parents were. Catherine and family emigrated to New York in the late 1860s. This is Tree # 9 and is described in more detail in the New York posts page.

Is he 9d Noan 1850 as Hayde?

  • Patrick Hayde b 1850, Ballinure
  • John Heade b 1852, Ballinure
  • Cath Hayde b 1853
  • Elizabeth Hayde b 1855, Ballinure
  • Ellen Hayde b 1857, Ballinure
  • Edmund Hayde b 1859, Ballinure
  • Mary Hayde b 1861
  • Bridget Hayde b 1863, Ballinure

The Griffiths map of the area in the 1850s is below:

Ballinure is the village in the centre.

{explain the plots}

Noan is

Ballinure can also be seen at the modern map below.

Co. Tipperary, Ireland

The original parish church in Ballinure is now rather dilapidated as can be seen from the photo below.

This church is just outside Ballinure on the road to Dually.  It has several Hayde graveyards.

I suspect all the Hayde families from Killhill, Killenaule, Ballinure and Noan gathered at this church.

Bury, England Families (Tree # 6)

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Patrick Hayde and Johanna Power

Patrick Hayde joined the 31st Foot on 10 April 1842 aged 18 (ie born 1824 [1]) at Kilkenny.  His enlistment papers stated that he was born in Fethard, Fethard parish, Tipperary.  He was a tailor by trade and he was 5’ 7 with blue eyes, brown hair and a sallow complexion.  Unfortunately I cannot find his birth record in the Fethard (or any other) parish records.

In 1846 he was transferred to the 50th Foot and then to the 32nd Regiment where he served until 1853.  He was discharged having served 11 years due to ill health.  He had hepatitis and a disease of the lungs.

In 1854 he was in Clonmel and in 1857 he was a sergeant in the South Tipperary Militia based in Waterford.

In 1858 he joined the 20th Foot (2nd Bn) at Cahir (which is south of Cashel and not far from Clonmel) as a sergeant (two weeks after the birth of his second child) and was again discharged in 1863.  The regiment was based in Ireland until 1858, then Aldershot to 1861, Montreal to 1862 then back to Aldershot before moving to Portsmouth in 1863.

Patrick purchased his discharge from the army in 1863 for pds18[2].

From 1863 until 1866 he was instructing privately.

He and his wife, Johanna Power, had 6 sons and 4 daughters.  They lived in Ireland to 1858 then at Taunton (1864, 1866), Portsmouth (1868, 1870), Liverpool (1873) and Bury (1875).  In 1866 he was back to being a tailor.  In 1868 he was a civil guard in Portsea, by 1870 he was a sick bay steward on HMS Volage[3], then he was on HMS Hercules, and by 1873 he was a Greenwich pensioner and in 1875 a Chelsea pensioner.

I found the marriage of Patrick and Johanna in Clonmel (St Mary’s) records in 1855.  They were both recorded as paupers.  Their first child in 1856 was baptized in Clonmel parish.

A son was born in Killenaule in 1862 when Patrick was serving with the army in Canada. This clearly connects them to the Ballinure area. The Fethard parish area borders that of Killenaule as can be seen from the map below.  Part of the Clonmel, St Marys parish is also just west of Fethard.

It is also interesting how Patrick was in Taunton at the same time that Edward (see Tree # 1) enlisted in the 67th Foot at the same place in 1867. They obviously came from the same in area in Ireland.  I wonder how they kept in touch and knew where each other was when they couldn’t read or write?

In June 1876 a son, Joseph, was on trial for larceny.  He was acquitted.

In 1871, Johanna was recorded in the Portsmouth census as being the wife of a steward in the Royal Navy.  Patrick died in Bury in 1880 and at the time of the 1881 census his wife Johanna was living in Bury, with 9 children (one had died young).  It appears that Patrick and family moved to Bury around 1875, when Patrick was almost 50.  Bury has the barracks for the Lancashire Fusilliers, which was what the 20th Foot became.

He may have moved there to be close to his old regiment. Perhaps he had a pension from the army, or maybe he just wanted to be close to old colleagues.

Two of their children, William Augustine (born 1860) and George Vincent (born 1866) emigrated to America in the late 1880s.  The rest stayed and their many descendants are mainly in this area, although in the last 30 years have spread south.  I have found the descendants of William in America but not those of George.

According to a descendant, Patrick was a Bandmaster in the Lancashire Fusiliers.  I however did not find this referred to in the Army records.  My ancestor from Tree # 1 was however a Bandmaster and I wondered if the relative had mixed up the stories she had heard.

The map of Bury on the page below shows where the family lived between 1881 and 1901.

The family can be summarised as:

Patrick Hayde and Johanna Power

  • Margaret Hayde b 1856, Clonmel
  • Patrick Joseph Hayde b 1858, Cahir, Tipperary. D 1887.Mar Sara Hobson/Holden in 1881. Descendants in Bury
    • Edward b 1882 d 1952. Mar Anne Doherty
    • William b 1884 d 1937. Mar Elizabeth Butterworth
      • Josephine b 1909 d 1914
      • Winifred b 1912 d 1996
      • William b 1913. Mar Elizabeth Hamer
      • Joseph b 1915 d 2000. Mar Florence Beech
      • Esther b 1920 d 1921
      • Constance b 1922 d 2002
      • Thomas b 1922 d 1943
      • Frank b 1923 d 1987. Mar Doris Garner
      • James E b 1929 d 2010. Mar Jean Keelan and Jean Livsey
  • William Augustine Hayde b 1860, Somerset. Emigrated to America in 1880 and mar Adelaide Kelly 1906. D 1940. Descendants in New York
    • Florence G b 1908 d 1948
    • Alice M b 1917 d 2010
  • Thomas Hayde b 1862, Killenaule. D 1933. Mar Mary Carroll 1884. Descendants in Bury and Rochdale
    • Joseph Patrick b 1885 d 1885
    • Francis b 1887 d 1970. Mar Alice Heywood
    • Patrick b 1888 d 1963. Mar Sarah Greenhalgh
      • Frank b 1915 d 1916
      • Kathleen b 1920
      • Margaret b 1921 d 1922
      • Mary b 1921
      • Joseph b 1922 d 1992. Mar Mary Jane Flynn
    • Henry b 1890 d 1891
    • Winifred b 1893 d 1895
    • Anne b 1892
    • Johanna b 1895 d 1899
    • Margaret Alice b 1897 d 1900
    • Catherine b 1900 d 2003
  • Hanora Hayde b 1864, Taunton. D 1868
  • George Vincent Hayde b 1866. Emigrated to America. D 1940
  • Mary Anne Hayde b 1868, Portsmouth. D 1955
  • Henry Hayde b 1870, Portsmouth. Became a Redemptionist Brother. D 1942
  • Johanna Hayde b 1873, Liverpool. D 1962
  • Edward Hayde b 1875, Bury. D 1961. Mar Clara Annie Smith 1898
    • Harold E b 1899 d 1904
    • Agnes  b 1902 d 1986
    • Helena b 1906 d 1991
    • John Edward b 1909 d 1972. Mar Marion Wild

A copy of this family tree is at https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/51256936/family

This tree is genetically linked to Trees # 1, 9 and 10 that all originate from the Ballinure area.

[1] His date of birth was on a declaration Patrick made at Portsea on 23 May 1867 as 17 March 1827! If correct this meant he enlisted when he was 15. It was not unusual at the time for recruits to lie about their age in order to be able to enlist.

[2] A 1866 court case explains where these funds came from.

[3] HMS Volage was originally an iron screw corvette launched in 1869 and was sold in 1904.  In the 1890s it, together with 3 sister ships, were training ships.

New York, America Families (Tree # 9)

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Oct 222017
 

Edward and Catherine

Edward and Catherine Liddy/Leadon had 8 children in the Killenaule parish in Tipperary, Ireland in the 1850s and 1860s. They were living in Ballinure at the time. Their origins are outlined in the Ballinure posts page.

Edward died of a fever in the Cashel workhouse aged 40 on 20 March 1865, leaving Catherine and the 8 children of:

  • Patrick b 1850
  • John b 1852
  • Catherine b 1853
  • Elizabeth b 1855. Pos mar Patrick Connors 1878, Ireland
  • Ellen b 1857
  • Edward b 1859
  • Mary b 1861
  • Bridget b 1863 d 1865, Ireland

The Ireland land valuation records showed that they probably lived at plot 12 in Ballinure in the 1850s. At the time, Hayde families lived on plots 10, 12a, 19 and 17b. These were all small plots of land centered around the villages of Ballinure and Noan.

The valuation records showed that they left this plot in the late 1860s – which is consistent with the death of Edward and their emigration to America.

In 1870, Cath was with sons Patrick and John in New York. Also with them was John Leddy, presumably a brother of Caths’.

Patrick probably arrived in 1868 although I have not found any arrival records of the others nor of John Leddy. Edwards’ naturalization records of 1886 said he arrived 1871. Patrick was naturalized 1872 and John 1876. Patrick was a driver (probably of a train), John a brakeman and Edward a fireman when they were naturalized.

By 1880, Patrick had married Sarah Wiley and John had been joined by Edward, Kate and Nellie (Ellen). Patrick was at W 35th St and the others at W 32nd St in Manhattan.

Mary also emigrated to NY in 1882 and married a Michael Smith in 1889.  Ellen married Patrick Dowling in 1884.

Patrick b 1850 and Sarah Wiley

Patrick and Sarah Wiley had 3 children. Cathy in 1876, William James in 1883 and Joseph Patrick in 1886. Patrick died in 1889 and Sarah remarried Christopher Kruger, who had died in 1897. She appears to have had Eugene 1890, Walter 1892 and Sadie 1894 to him. Sarah became a McCarthy in 1903.

William James and Joseph Patrick both married twice and many descendants in New York can trace themselves back to one of these two families.

The descendants are:

  • Catherine b 1876 d 1937. Mar Edward Connor.
  • William James Hayde b 1883 d 1966 and Mary Lee
    • James Fletcher b 1903. Mar Margaret Locasio 1926
      • Donald Francis Michael Hayde b 1926 d 2003. Mar Joan Cora Mayfield
    • William Anthony b 1906 d 1971. Mar Elizabeth McGuiness 1930
    • Dorothy b 1908. Mar Girado/Gerard Minlionica 1928
    • Robert b 1911. Mar Antoinette Fasano. Robert enlisted in army and lived in Hells Kitchen, (Manhattan). Antoinette remarried Gus Mastillone
      • Mary b 1934 mar ? Novotny
      • William Albert b 1935 d 2004. Mar Corinne Roquist
        • Dieben b 1958
        • William b 1959
        • Denise b 1965
      • Albert b 1939 d 2008
        • Michael
        • Richard
        • Christian
    • Edward b 1913/ Mar Helen McNulty 1947
      • Edward b 1950
      • Gerard
      • Jimmy
    • Francis b 1915 d 1981. Mar Mildred Fasanelle
      • Edward
      • Frances
      • George
      • Raymond.  Mar ? Warden
      • William
    • George Joseph b 1918 d 1977. Mar Helen Connors 1939
      • Alison
      • Jo-Anne b 1945
      • Teresa
    • Walter b 1920
    • Harold b 1920 d 1977. Did not marry
    • Raymond b 1926 d 1958. Mar Anna Nicoletti 1947
      • Raymond Scott b 1948
      • Thomas William b 1949
      • Anna Lee b 1949
      • Timothy George b 1952
  • William James Hayde and new wife
    • John b ?
    • Annette b ?
  • Joseph Patrick Hayde b 1886 d 1956. Mar Jennie Graham in 1904 who died in 1930 and Anna Dielman in 1940
    • Anne b 1906 d 1907
    • John Joseph b 1907 d 1994. Mar Frances McGuinness 1933
      • Mary Jane b 1937 d 2019
      • John Joseph b 1939. Mar Margaret Whitley
      • Frances b 1943
      • Elizabeth b 1953
    • Joseph P b 1908 d 1910
    • Jane b 1910 d 2008
    • Sarah b 1912 d 1984
    • Walter F b 1914 d 1934
    • Loretta Irene b 1915 d 1990
    • Thomas Edward b 1917 d 1990. Mar Margaret Harvey 1941
      • Margaret
      • William Patrick
      • Thomas E b 1848 d 2017
    • Lawrence Joseph b 1919 d 2007. Mar Catherine Borsch 1940
      • Kathleen Patricia b 1942 b 2019
      • Laurence Michael b 1945 d 1969
      • Laura Anne b 1955
    • Helen b 1921 d 2016. Mar Edwin Dorry
    • Philip Joseph b 1924 d 1997. Mar Adeline Buonocore 1947
      • Philip R b 1949
      • Lorraine M b 1952

A photo of William in the early 1900s is below. William (b 1883) is on the left with a pint of Guinness in his hand!:

John b 1852 and Celia Flanagan (and Catherine Hunter)

John married Celia Flanagan in 1880 and they had 4 children. Walter in 1883, John in 1885, Theodore in 1888 and Frank in 1889.

Celia died in 1895 and John remarried Catherine Hunter in 1900 and they had a daughter, Gertrude in 1904.

Walter, John and Theodore all married and had children.  Descendants are in Westchester, New Jersey, Ohio as well as New York.

The descendants are:

  • Walter Edward Hayde and Caroline Rieger
    • Dorothy b 1922
  • John Hayde and Anastasia Butler
    • Edward Francis b 1906 d 1967. Mar Anna McCaffney
      • Anne Susan b 1932 d 2009
      • Marylin b 1935
      • Edward F b 1940
    • John Joseph b 1913 d 1998. Mar Marion Tompkins
      • Linda b 1939
    • Jane Alice b 1922
  • Theodore Vincent Hayde and Julie McCue
    • Walter b 1914 d 1915
    • Vincent Richard b 1916 d 1996. Mar Genevieve Hamed
      • Vincent RJ b 1940 d 2001
      • Dennis b 1845 d 2000
    • Francis James b 1919 d 2010. Mar Julia Karchevski
    • Catherine Teresa b 1923
  • Frank Hayde – not married

Edward b 1859 and Margaret Kieran (and Mary Hopkins)

Edward married Margaret Kieran in 1883.  They had 3 children. Loretta in 1883, William J in 1886 and Edward in 1888.

Margaret died in 1887 and Edward remarried a widow, Mary Hopkins.  They had a further son, Walter Joseph in 1892.

Edward, a fireman, died in 1890 (aged 31) and Mary remarried a Martin Foley in 1908. In 1900, Loretta and William were with an uncle (Nicholas Kenny – prob Kieran) and Edward was with Margaret Leahey (in laws – probably Liddy).

William J died in 1903 before he had a family.  Edward married however he did not appear to have any children. Walter Joseph married and descendants are in New Jersey, Florida and well as New York. Descendants are:

  • Walter Joseph Hayde and Winifred Morton
    • Mary b 1915. Mar De Casto
    • Martin Patrick 1917
    • Walter J b 1920 d 1988. Mar Catherine Denig
      • Walter
      • Mary Ellen. Mar Grimes
      • Nancy. Mar Ep
    • Joseph William b 1926

The detailed family tree for this branch can be viewed at https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/51532280/family

A more detailed history of parts of this family can be seen at: http://hayde-dorry-family-reunion.webs.com/haydehistory.htm

Killenaule, Tipperary, Ireland

 Tree # 01  1 Response »
Oct 192022
 

As outlined in the Irish Research page and the Killenaule Parish page, a Richard Head was at Mortelstown at the time of the 1666/7 Hearth records. This is a village just south of Killenaule and for the purposes of this web site, I have treated it as a separate family from the others around Ballinure and Killballyherberry.

He is probably one of the O’Hea families in Middlethird in the 1659 census.

There is no surviving 1766 census records for this area so the Catholic parish records and the Tithe taxes in 1830 need to be relied upon to pick up the thread of ancestors.

In 1828, a John Headd was at Pike Road, Killenaule and by 1850 Richard Hade was at the same place. A Richard Hayde was at Cashel Road, Killenaule in 1849 according to the Cashel Poor Law Rate Books. John Hayd was a blacksmith in the 1856 Slaters Directory of Killenaule. The valuation records of the 1850s showed that Richard had at forge at his house on Main Street, which became Pike St.

Richard is not a commonly used name in the family and I have assumed that the family in Killenaule is descended from Richard at Mortlestown mainly because of the commonality of name as well as their general proximity.

The Killenaule parish records showed:

Richard and Maria Bradshaw 

In 1824 when they married, they were at Main St (with John, his father, next door) and Pike St, Killenaule in the 1840s to 1870s. Pike St runs off Main St as can be seen from the Griffiths map reproduced below. Richard seems to have died in the 1870s and Maria took over the property at Main St. They had:

  • Ellen Hayde b 1825, Killenaule
  • Bridget Hayd b 1826, Killenaule. Mar Patrick Delahunty 1865. Albany, NY in 1871. D 1892
  • Joanna Hayd b 1828, Killenaule
  • Mary Hayde b 1833, Killenaule. Mar Patrick Quinlan. Emigrated to London.
  • William Hayde b 1836, Killenaule
  • Richard Hayde b 1841, Killenaule. Mar Mary Brien 1856.
    • James Hayde b 1857, Foulkestown (a parish bordering Killenaule parish)
    • Mary Hayde b 1859, Foulkestown
    • Bridget Hayde b 1861
    • Catherine Hayde b 1862, Foulkestown
    • James Hayde b 1864, Foulkestown. Mar Anastasia. D Pennsylvania 1944
      • Cecelia Hayde b 1903, NY
    • Marg Hade b 1867
    • Mary Hayde b 1869, Foulkestown. Mar 1896
    • Patrick Hayde b 1871, Foulkestown
  • Patrick Hayde b 1845, Killenaule

The valuation records showed Richard arriving in Foulkestown in 1857.

This family seems to have either left the area of died out.

There is also:

John and Peggy Ryan.

They married in 1832 as Haid from Killenaule. John is probably a brother of Richard. I have found no children or descendants.

I have treated this family as part of Tree # 10. The tree can be viewed at https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/53054467/family?cfpid=13448753135

Richard (and John) are probably descendants of Richard and Margaret Croagh who had the following children in this parish:

  • Maria Heade b 1750
  • Thomas Head b 1762
  • Jacob (James) Heade b 1765. Mar Elizabeth Wilson 1795.

    • Joannes (John) Head b 1796. Mar Mary Maher
      • James Hayde b 1825, Cashel parish
      • Cath Hayde b 1828, Mockershill (by Monameagh, Cashel parish)
      • Richard Head b 1831, Boherangh
      • Tom Hayde b 1833, Ballincloragh
      • Mary Heade b 1836, Curraghtarsna (borders Mockershill)
    • Michael b 1798
  • Patrick Head b 1767
  • Richard Heade b 1770

Given the uncommon use of Richard, the families passing this name down the generations are probably related. The precise connection cannot be proven from the surviving records.

The detailed research notes for this area can be seen at Ballinure and Killenaule area – Trees 1 ,6 ,8, 9 and 10

There were also three other families in this parish (of Killenaule) in the mid 1700s. These were:

1) Patrick and Joanna Fogerty from Killenaule who married in 1752

  • Ellen Heade b 1755

2) Michael and Ellen Wilson who married in 1792

  • Joannes (John) Head b 1793, Killenaule
  • Ellen Head b 1794

I have found no obvious descendants of these two families.

Cashel Parish, Tipperary

 Tree # 12  3 Responses »
Feb 202025
 

Tree # 12

As mentioned in the Irish Research page, a James Hiade from Derryluskan, Rathcoole was in the Hearth Money records in 1665/6/7. He was probably one of the 10 families shown in the 1659 census of the area.

In 1766:

  • A James Head was at Rathcoole. This is close to Derryluskan. Godfrey Taylor and John Langley were listed as protestants on this census record.
  • A Nich Head was at Railstown. Railstown is between Coolmoyne and Monameagh.

At the time of the Tithe taxes in the 1820s, there were 3 families in this area that could have descended from James or Nich. These are:

  1. Thomas Heade and Mary Dustil and Thomas Hayde and Catherine Cuddihy at Monameagh
  2. Patrick Headd and Mary Glifson at Coolmoyne
  3. Widow Heade at Brickeen

This area is in the middle of the triangle between Cashel, Fethard and Ballinure and north east of Fethard as can be seen below and the relevant parishes are highlighted in yellow.

Dually and Killballyherberry where the other family groups resided in the 16th and 17th century are highlighted in green.

It is entirely possible that these families may link more directly back to other areas. For example, Monameagh is just south of Dually where Trees # 1, 9 and 10 can be traced back to.  The elder Thomas in Monameagh may well be a son of Richard and Margaret Croagh who had a Thomas in 1762 in Killenaule parish, however this of course is speculation.

For the purposes of this web site, these families are treated as descendants of either James Hiade from Derryluskan or Nich Head from Railtown.

Monameagh

In the Monameagh, Cashel parish in 1827, a Thomas Heade and Mary Dustil (or Portal) farmed a 1a 0r 0p plot owned by Lady Caroline Damer while a son, Thos Hayde (b 1799) and Catherine Cuddihy farmed a very small plot owned by Lord Portlington. This is plot 6 in the map as marked below:

Thomas and Catherine married in 1821 (as Hade) and had at least 6 children in the 1820s and 1830s. By 1850 Thomas had died and his wife Catherine was farming 1a 1 r 23p on land owned by Thomas Dwyer (who was the major landowner in Monameagh at this time). Catherine was in the Cashel Poor Law Rate Books in 1849 and in the valuation records up until circa 1856.

I think Thomas was son of Thomas and Mary Dustil/Portal b 1799 (as Heden).

The family can be seen as:

Thomas b abt 1780 and Mary Dustil

  • Nicholas Heade b 1794. Mar Mary Barona
    • Mary Haide b 1823
    • James Heade b 1824
    • William Hayde b 1827, Mayfield
    • Catherine Head b 1829
    • Elizabeth Hayde b 1832, Mayfield
    • Ellen Hayde b 1834
    • Patrick Hayde b 1837
    • Nicholas Hayde b 1840, Mayfield
  • Catherine Heade b 1797
  • Thomas Hede b 1799. Mar Cath Cuddihy 1821.
    • Marg Hayde b 1821
    • Patrick Hayde b 1826. Emigrated to America and settled in Kansas.  This family is detailed further in the Kansas City page.
    • Michael Hayde b 1826
    • Nicholas Hayde b 1828, Monameagh
    • Ellen Hayde b 1831
    • Catherine Hayde b 1835

In the 1880 census there was a Peter J Hayde in Sullivan, Missouri.  He was born 1830, a married man and a bricklayer.  He could be another son of Thomas and Cath, or it could be a duplicate of Patrick J who was recorded with the same age and occupation.

There was also a Thomas born 1821 who could be from this area. He was a mason in the civil war records.  He arrived USA 1848 according to 1900 census. He was a widower in 1900.

Coolmoyne (Taylor)

Patrick b abt 1780 and Mary Glifson

Patrick and Mary farmed a small plot in 1827. Their children were:

  • James Hayde b 1809
  • Richard Hayde b 1811. In valuation records until 1856
  • Michael Hayde b 1816
  • Catherine Hayde b 1818

Patrick defaulted on his tithes in the 1830s. By 1850, Mary Hayde was farming 3 acres of the part of Coolmoyne owned by the Taylor family.  This family originates from Nathaniel Taylor, an officer in Cromwell’s army, who was granted an estate of approximately 1,000 acres in the barony of Slievardagh, county Tipperary, including the townland of Noan in 1666. His grandson, Lovelace Taylor, purchased Ballinure in 1742.

Lovelace’s son Godfrey Taylor of Noan, county Tipperary, married as his second wife, Lydia, daughter and heir of Nicholas Bacon, in 1758. Edward Taylor of Noan, barony of Slievardagh, county Tipperary, married Elizabeth Hewetson of Kilkenny and had three sons who all died childless and a daughter Anne. Edward died in 1802 and was succeeded by his son Nathaniel who died in 1828. His daughter Anne married John Bagwell of Kilmore in 1819 and the Bagwell family was in possession of this estate by the mid 19th century. It was sold to Stanley Black in 1853.

The 3 acre plot that Patrick farmed is not shown on the Griffiths map below. The 162 acre Taylor part of Coolmoyne is in the centre while the others parts are to the south and south west.

A younger brother of Edward, Nathanial Taylor, inherited Ballinure, a townland bordering Noan, but without a residence. Godfrey L. Taylor of Durrow, Queen’s County (Laois), owned 996 acres in county Tipperary in the 1870s. In the mid 19th century the Taylor estate was in the parishes of Graystown, barony of Slievardagh, Peppardstown and Rathcool, barony of Middlethird. The estate of the trustees of the will of Godfrey Taylor at Rathkenny, barony of Middlethird, county Tipperary, was advertised for sale in May 1854.

Godfrey Taylor was the landowner at Coolmoyne where Hayde families were present from 1766.

Brickeen

Brickendown is in the same area as Mayfield. It is not entirely clear who this widow Heade is from the parish records.

Other families in the Cashel parish records (which started in 1793) are:

Thomas and Catherine Brophy

  • James Heade b 1795. Possibly moved to Ballinree
  • Honor Heade b 1797

Edmund and Margaret Mullane

  • John Heade b 1798. Mar Cath Ryan in 1822 as Hade

Nicholas and Nancy Wall

  • John Heade b 1799. Mar Mary Connors
    • John Hayde b 1826

James and Mary Herrick.

James died Mayfield 1816.

  • James Hayde b 1806
  • Bridget Hayde b 1808

John and Mary Heffernan

  • Catherine Hayde b 1815
  • John Hayde b 1817
  • Bridget Hayde b 1821

There are also families in later time periods which cannot be easily traced to any of the above. The detailed Cashel records provide more information at Cashel area – Tree # 12

This family is Tree # 12 and the family tree can be viewed in more detail at https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/51476676/family

Kansas City (Tree # 12)

 Tree # 12  7 Responses »
Oct 202022
 

Patrick Joseph Hayde and Bridget Barry

As mentioned in the Cashel pages, one of the sons of Thomas and Catherine, a Patrick Joseph Hayde born 1826, immigrated to America, probably on the City of Washington on 31 May 1851 (as Patrick Heade).  He married Bridget Barry in New York in 1851 and they had their first child in 1853.  Patrick served in the Engineers during the Civil War of 1861-1865 (as Patrick Hade).

Patrick used the New York Emigrant Savings Bank along with his sister Mary in the 1860s. He also placed an advert in the Irish Relatives and Friends publication in 1856 when he was looking for Thomas Hayde, who was living in New York in 1854. Patrick stated that he served his time at Higgins and Thurston, NY and was then living in Keokuk, Ohio and was working as a bricklayer.

Thomas was probably a brother. He was in the 1880 census and 1880s directories as a commercial traveller/salesman.

In 1860 Patrick and family were still in Lee, Keokuk, Iowa (as Hade) with their 4 children and by 1870 they were in Missouri (as Hayde and Hayd) with an enlarged family.

Patrick and Bridget had 5 sons, 4 daughters and another child that died at birth. All the existing Haydes in Kansas City and some in California, Chicago and Florida are descendants. Patrick died 1903 of acute pneumonia.

The early parts of the family tree are:

  • Thomas Francis b 1852 d 1926. Detective. Mar Margaret Francis
    •  Mary Isobel b 1876 d 1898
    • Leo Maurice b 1878 d 1917. Mar Margaret Blake
      • Mary Margaret b 1910 d 2002. Mar Eugene Glasgow
      • Catherine F b 1910 d 1978. Mar Fred Johnson
      • Thomas Patrick b 1913 d 1977. Mar Jennie Cipolla
      • Leo Maurice b 1915 d 1991. Mar Henrietta Barthol
      • Gertrude b 1917 d 1993. Mar James Losure and William Burris
    • Thomas Patrick b 1880 d 1945. Mar Sylvia Berger
      • Isabel L b 1903 d 1988. Mar John Higgins
      • Genevieve b 1905 d 1981. Mar William Boyle
      • Steven C b 1908 d 1971. Mar Margaret Prothman
      • Regina E b 1910 d 1984. Mar Merrill Reece
      • Joseph F b 1913 d 1961. Mar Helen Pursley and Clara
      • William F b 1914 d 1965. Mar Mary Ludgate, Marilyn James and Valerie
      • James R b 1917 d 1980. Mar Sarah Jennings and Nora Clark
      • John C b 1919 d 1978. Mar Karla Shafer and Mary Conn
      • Marjorie M b 1919 d 2010. Mar William Corniskey
      • Mary Ida b 1920 d 1988. Mar William Redmond
  • John Charles b 1856 d 1921. Mar Margaret Long
    • George Stephen b 1885 d 1947
    • John Charles b 1886 d 1955. Mar Mary Wood
      • Elizabeth G b 1918 d 1994
      • John C b 1922 d 2000. Mar Isabel Green and Veronica Pfelfer
    • Margaret M b 1890 d 1971
    • Catherine 1892 d 1976
  • Margaret Cecilia b 1857 d 1944. Mar Thomas Miller
  • Katherine b 1859 d 1944
  • Stephen J b 1862 d 1928 Mar Katherine McFarrelly
  • William Patrick b 1863. William is mentioned in an article on Men who Made Kansas City.
    • Frank Richard b 1894 d 1966. Mar Mary Christman
      • Frank R b 1920 d 1945. Mar Shirley Hohl
      • John J b 1926. Mar Helga Soellner
    • Infant b 1896 d 1896
    • Alice Veronica b 1898 d 1958. Mar William Monahan
    • William Joseph Patrick b 1902 d 1963. Mar Louise Hooper
      • Patricia M b 1944. Mar Richard Maralano
      • Richard b 1945
      • Nancy b 1946 d 1980
      • Judith b 1948. Mar John Dickey
      • Phillip J b 1950
    • Mary Frances b 1904 d 1952
  • Matthew T b 1865
    • Rosalie Marie b 1896 d 1946
    • Eulalia b 1897 d 1985. Mar Raymond Beagley
    • Isabel b 1898
    • Theobald Richard b 1901 d 1942
  • Elizabeth Alice b 1870
  • Richard b 1872, d 1872
  • Mary Ellen b 1874. Mar John Dailey

A photo of Matthew (b 1865) and William Patrick (b 1863) taken about 1890 is below.  Matthew is on the left and William on the right. The person in the middle is unrelated.

This family is Tree # 12 and the family tree can be viewed in more detail at https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/51476676/family

Drangan Parish, Tipperary

 Tree # 11  6 Responses »
Feb 202025
 

Tree # 11

This family posts section focuses on the families around the adjoining parishes of Drangan and Mullinahone. Fethard is discussed in a different page.

There is no reference to any family members in these parishes in the 1666/7 and 1766 records.  In the Tithe records of the 1830s and the Griffiths records of the 1850s there were:

  • William Hayde at Knockelly in 1833 and then Thomas Hayde in 1850
  • Edmund Headd at Cloran in 1830 and Richard Hayde at Kilnagranagh and James Hade at Drangan in 1850

Note that Cloneen is often mentioned in documents and this is a civil parish that includes Kilnagranagh, Cappaghmore and Cloran.

Cloran and Kilnagranagh

The parish records showed a James at Cloran in 1833 at the same time as Edmond. He didn’t feature in the Tithe records so he must have been with Edmond on the 19 acres that Edmond farmed. They were probably brothers.

According to the parish records, John Head/Hayde was in Bannixtown in the 1830s and 1840s.  This village is nor far from Cloran and he may be another brother of Edmond and James. I have not found any trace of descendants of John.

I have constructed tree # 11 on the assumption that Michael, Edmund, William and John are sons of Edm from Killusty.  They may however be cousins rather than brothers but this information is not available.

The parish records also include the marriages of:

  • Anne Head of Killusty to Nicholas Power in 1816
  • Ellen Head of Bannixtown to Thos Hacker in 1818

These may well be sisters of Michael, Edmond, William and John.

Cloran and Cappadrummin are all close to Killusty in the Fethard parish as can be seen from the map below while Knockelly is a bit further North.

By the 1850s, a John Hayde was at Graigue, a townland further south from Killusty, around the mountain of Slievenamon, by Kilsheelan. He may be descended from the brothers above but this is unable to be determined from the records available. He is discussed further in the Gambonsfield Parish page.

Michael and Mary Gorman

They married 1813 in Drangan parish and both were recorded as from Killusty. Michael was actually called Edmd in the marriage records although all the baptisms referred to him as Michael. They were in Cappadroma in the 1828 Tithe records. They had the following children:

  • James Head b 1816. Mar Mary Doran 1843 as Hayde from Cloran. They were in Drangan in the 1850 Griffiths records .
    • James Hayd b 1843, Drangan.
    • Bridget Head b 1847, Drangan. Mar Vermont 1871
    • Robert Hayde b 1845, Corbally. Mar Mary Mahoney. Corbally is a village a mile North East of Drangan. In the 1880s they were living in Fethard.
      • Mary Hayde b 1866. Mar 1892
      • James Hayde b 1869. He joined the Militia in 1887 at Clonmel. He later served in the Royal Irish Rifles. Mar Mary Mitchell 1899. They emigrated to New York on the Oceanic in March 1900. He was a shoemaker/bootmaker. Mary died in childbirth circa 1913 and children put into an orphanage.
        • James Joseph Hayde b 1902. Mar Elizabeth Fellman 1925. Greenwich, Conn. D 1965
          • James Joseph Hayde b 1928, Conn.  Mar Gertrude Murphy
            • James Joseph Hayde b 1928, d 2012
        • Ann Hayde b 1904. Mar Carl Gunther
        • Mary Hayde b 1906. Joined convent and became Sister Mary John
        • Robert Joseph Hayde b 1909. Mar Louise Kennedy
          • Robert Joseph Hayde b 1939, d 1987
          • Michael Hayde
          • Mary Louise Hayde
          • Kathleen Hayde
      • Alice Hayd b 1870. Mar 1898
      • Catherine Hayde b 1872. Mar 1918
      • John Hayde b 1874. He joined the army Militia in 1891 at Clonmel. Mar Johanna Whelan, Clonmel 1907 and was still there in 1911.
        • Margaret Mary Hayde b 1909
      • Bridget Hayde b 1876 mar James Halley
      • Unknown female b 1880. Mar 1896
      • Ellen Hayde b 1882
  • Anne Head b 1817
  • Timothy Head 1820
  • Ellen Head b 1823
  • Mary Heade b 1826
  • Michael Hayde b 1829
  • Bridget Heade b 1832
  • Cath Hayde b 1835
  • Judy Hade b 1836

James, Anne, Timothy and Ellen were baptised in the Drangan parish while the later children were baptised in the Fethard parish records. In the 1830s the parish records described them as being from Cappadrummin and is where Michael Heade was recorded in the Tithe records as farming 2 acres in 1828.

Edmond and Margaret English

They had:

  • Mary Head b 1814
  • Judith Head b 1816
  • Bridget Headin b 1819
  • Thomas Head b 1822
  • John Head b 1824
  • Margaret Head b 1825
  • Ellen Hayde b 1828, Cloran

Edmond was in the Tithe records of 1830 as Headd. He was farming 19 acres at # 25 and the English family were at # 33.

Edmond died 1834 and left his estate to Margaret. Mary (nee Gorman) was the householder on this property in the 1840s but she had gone by 1849 and there is no family presence here in the 1850s.

James and Mary Fitzgerald 

They had:

  • Mary Head b 1815
  • Richard Head b 1818. Mar Mary Shea 1842. Kilnagranagh Griffiths 1 acre.
    • James Head b 1842, Kilnagranagh
    • Patrick Head, b 1844, Cloran. Mar Bridget Lee, Bennington, Vermont, USA, 1872. Patrick arrived in 1871 according to his Naturalisation records although there is no surviving immigration record, and he was Naturalised in 1873. There is no obvious 1880 census record for them. The 1900 American census showed Bridget as having 6 children with 3 living at that time.
      • Mary Hayde b 1873 Brooklyn
      • Edward Hayde b 1876 Albany
      • Margaret Hayde b 1878
    • Richard Head b 1846, Kilna. Mar Margaret Kenny. Richard died in 1927 and left his estate to his daughter Mary.
      • Mary Hade b 1887. Mary died in 1945 and left the estate to a non family member.
      • William Hade b 1889. He died in 1942 and he left his estate to a non family member.
    • Mary Head b 1849, Kilna
    • Margaret Head b 1852, Cappaghmore
    • Thomas Hayde b 1854, Cappa. Died of a disease of the lungs in Cashel Workhouse in 1878.
    • John Head b 1857, Cappa. John probably lived on a small plot at Kilnagranagh (12B) until he died in 1939.  There was no record of a marriage or children in the civil records.
    • Mary Hayde b 1860, Cappa
  • Anne Head b 1821
  • Bridget Head b 1824. Mar William Keevan 1846
  • Thomas Hayde b 1829. Mar Eliz O’Donnell
  • Patrick Hayde b 1832, Cloran. He probably mar Johanna Lyons in America.  Descendants are discussed in the Connecticut page.

James was not in the Tithe records and was probably with Edmond in Cloran.

William and Alice Delaney

They had:

  • Margaret Head b 1817
  • Bridget Head b 1818
  • Edmond Head b 1824

William was in the Tithe records of Knockelly as Hayde. They must have had more children as a Thomas Hayde was on this land in 1846 until 1882.

In the 1860s Thomas was before the courts on a number of petty crimes and a Judith Hayde was a witness on one occasion.

John and Ellen Carroll and then Mary Dermody

I have assumed that this is the same John and he remarried.  He was from Bannixtown and he had the following children:

  • Mary Head b 1832 (to Ellen Carroll)
  • Patrick Hayde b 1841 (to Mary Dermody)

The family tree # 11 can be found at https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/51523823/family

Knockelly

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